Fri-No best bets tonight.

[ZORRO]

I think thats a good thing the way things are going this week.

Two teams have shit ratings tonight.
San Diego at 20%
Marist at 21%

Too bad the teams they're playing are not 70% and higher.

BUT...that is what is winning this week as the best bets go down.

PEP 55%
S.D. 20%


MARIST 21%
SIENA 42%


For the morons that think the past has nothing to do with this years games, this is too stupid to answer, but I will anyway.

Gee, if Marist is playing at Kentucky or Duke...why aren't they favored by 25 to 30?
Why don't they make Elan at Duke a 30 point favorite?

MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PAST, EH?

If we go by these MORONS here are the lines:

Iona at Duke...Iona 27 point favorite.

Elan at NC...Elan favorite by 30

Towson at Kentucky...Towson 28 point fav.

Hey, the past has nothing to do with the games this year, right?

Here is something out of the past for all geeks.....the last time San Diego won a game at Pep. was....around.....1842.

[Rothko1000]

Originally posted by ZORRO

For the morons that think the past has nothing to do with this years games, this is too stupid to answer, but I will anyway.

Hey, more insults from Don Vito!!!! Noone wants your answers or explanations....we just want you to leave! There isn't a single person here who is tailing this bullshit system of yours....zero!!!! The only moron you speak of is the one who would consider tailing a guy with NO YTD!!!!! Please leave and take your revolutionary system to another gambling site!!!!

MODS....this kind of poison needs to be banned from the forum!!!

[ZORRO]

Originally posted by Rothko1000
Hey, more insults from Don Vito!!!! Noone wants your answers or explanations....we just want you to leave! There isn't a single person here who is tailing this bullshit system of yours....zero!!!! The only moron you speak of is the one who would consider tailing a guy with NO YTD!!!!! Please leave and take your revolutionary system to another gambling site!!!!

MODS....this kind of poison needs to be banned from the forum!!!

You just proved my point. Here is what Bob Grant has been saying in NY for 35 years....IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME...DON'T TURN ON THE PROGRAM!
Yet...he was the number one rated show all that time in radio.
If you have an IQ above 40...YOU UNDERSTAND THAT...IF NOT.....

YOU....are on my thread....I am not on yours am I?

Don't like Zorro? Don't read his threads.
Hey, is somebody holding a gun to your head?
I would call the police if that is so.

Last night in the restaurant, we were all getting ready to come on here today to read the Geeks when they saw I had lost the games. when I won THEY STAYED OFF THE THREADS.

This is the fun of a forum for us.

Oh.....for the season, my friend, don't pay attention to my percentages AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR ASS!

THAT...is a sure thing!

[JAY]

Yo Zero what is your YTD? Maybe you should stop with your insults and call one of your MOB buddies and get a best bet. You have won me a ton of money, I just fade your best bets. For someone with MOB ties you sure don't know anything about respect. The guys in this forum often disagree and often have differing opinons but we all respect each others opinon but when you come in here with your Mickey Mouse system that dosen't seem to have a YTD and call people morons you are only asking for trouble. Get a Grip leisure suit larry.

[iwsinc]

:out:

[iwsinc]

i hope the godfather doesnt put a hit on me now....:fire:

[ZORRO]

Originally posted by JAY
Yo Zero what is your YTD? Maybe you should stop with your insults and call one of your MOB buddies and get a best bet. You have won me a ton of money, I just fade your best bets. For someone with MOB ties you sure don't know anything about respect. The guys in this forum often disagree and often have differing opinons but we all respect each others opinon but when you come in here with your Mickey Mouse system that dosen't seem to have a YTD and call people morons you are only asking for trouble. Get a Grip leisure suit larry.

My answers to the geeks are just in fun.
Why? Why do I answer?

Look at my thread of Weds.
Aside from the best bets that went down 1-4....I SAID THERE WERE SOME GREAT GAMES.....THEY WERE:
VANDY THEY WON
BRADLEY THEY WON
NC GREEN THEY WON
BET AGAINST:
RHODE ISLAND YOU WON
WOFFORD YOU WON
NC WIL. YOU WON

Now...IN MY FUCKING COUNTRY THAT IS A 7-0 RECORD. Am I lying? IS THAT NOT ON MY THREAD?
Where were the geeks and freaks?

Where were the replies about THOSE FUCKING GAMES?

Do I really get mad? Are you kidding me?
I love this bullshit.

Its a lot of fun. As I already said, if you make a milllion bucks at the end of the year you will have nothing but pressure and aggravation all year round. Thats the nature of the beast. If you can't take it...DON'T BET BALLGAMES.

[ceobroker]

Zorro, I don't bet college hoops, not that big into it. But, I do enjoy reading threads and looking at all the different systems that people use. You claim that you told people to bet on this game or bet on that game... I just went back and read again your touts and I can't figure out what you are betting on.. And what are the lines? Every bookie or site has different lines.. you are typing in a ton of games, but you have no record of your bets.. Anyone of can put down 10, 15 or 30 games a night and if you are playing them all great, if not, don't put them.. it doesn't help any. Put your plays, put the lines that you are playing on that game, and put your record.. all the other stuff isn't needed, and the name calling is a bit much.. I am sure that you live a very exciting life.. I am also sure that there is another forum somewhere on the net for that, but it doesn't belong here... GL on your plays.. just have fun..

[jms]

It amazes me how all these people who don't like your posts and your system have nothing better to do but to read and respond to your posts. they need to get a life. Esspecially dj. Zorro you keep posting until they ban you and if they do then they are making a mistake. It means they only want to hear from the people that they agree with only.i am also a new yorker {yeah dj not from upstate} and sometimes people don't understand or i should say misunderstand some of the comments that you make.hopefully the people who make the decisions on who to ban understand this and i am sure they do. good luck jms

[DJTranks]

This forum has some people with class and Zoro is not one of them.

Telling people they are morons and idiots etc...

Also Zorro - you think you know so much about Vegas? WRONG.

You and your system is what Vegas loves, they love people like you with these "systems" that can not go wrong.

However that doesnt matter - thats not the problem, the problem is you always tell people their idiots and their dumb, then you come across with the I own horses so I know everything attidtude again - NO ONE CARES man.

Just post the plays and thats it, dont try to act like your someone who your really not.

[dead garcia]

I am 36-3 so far in college hoops....jump on the train....I also have mob ties and my inside info is for real...my guys actually have numerous college bball players on the payroll....it aint what you know...its who you know right....cant someone take out the garbage....its really starting to smell up the joint....

[Thor24]

I Have Only Jumped Into 1 Thread in Over a Year On Here....Over Crap Like This...Here is My 2nd..

Post a YTD..or Don't Post...

I Win Games I Don't Post...But I Don't Say.."Told You about This Team/Game..See They Won..!!"...Post It..Please...

Now for this Mob...Crap....Let me Tell ya Something...Don't Open That Street Up..Because Your Car Doesn't Travel that Way...A Man That Knows/Has Mob Connections..DON"T BRAG ABOUT IT...TRUST ME...Sh*t...Ya Think YOU Know the Mob..??!!!

You Wanted Some Attention..Ya Got It...With That Said..I will Not Bother Ya Again.....

Hope ya Have a Nice Day...:cool:

[OZZE2000]

You are too funny. I see they closed your last thread so I couldn't comment any further. I think you should keep those numbers for your own use unless you can explain exactly what the hell they mean. The past has nuthing to do with today except for past reference. Not only are you a joke and a very bad one you could use some of your huge alleged horse winnings and invest in hooked on phonics. They are still running that after Christmas special. I mean really just to clear up something are these so called ghost numbers based on pointspreads or straight up wins? either way its been shitty. The don't make Elon a 30 point favorite because Elon aint shit.
Youre the one with the mob connections maybe you should tell them to change the line to that and then give us a best bet to play on Kentucky and you would defintly get some props on that one.
Look at the rosters, I think you can answer your own stupid question there. I think you should just let it go. The more you speak the worse it gets. Just don't speak for a few days eventually all will die down.
If the lines were set like that we would all be rich except you of course because your system would probably have a 81% play on Elon or Elan if you prefer and you would still make an excuse.
I don't know about anyone else, but who cares what the hell happened in 1842. It has no beaing on my play unless you figure, damn they must be due. Im sure those that played in those games are 6 feet under still waiting for the world to end and are looking down on us from the heavens probably wondering where the hell you get these numbers from too. Maybe they didnt win because they had no nike's back then, its all about the shoes. Historically speaking the past means nuthing unless in a 2-4 year window. players change, coaches change, philosophies change. I like the Sapranos, does that count as having a mob connection? Just for the record whats the big deal about being in the restaurant business for 20 years? You watch too many movies. People that work the drive through at McDonalds have been there as well. Most start off on fountain then fries then grill then drive then leader etc etc, there you have it lifetime affiliation with a mob connection to the hamburgler. Good Luck tonight on whatever you decide to call your plays or almost plays.Originally posted by ZORRO
I think thats a good thing the way things are going this week.

Two teams have shit ratings tonight.
San Diego at 20%
Marist at 21%

Too bad the teams they're playing are not 70% and higher.

BUT...that is what is winning this week as the best bets go down.

PEP 55%
S.D. 20%


MARIST 21%
SIENA 42%


For the morons that think the past has nothing to do with this years games, this is too stupid to answer, but I will anyway.

Gee, if Marist is playing at Kentucky or Duke...why aren't they favored by 25 to 30?
Why don't they make Elan at Duke a 30 point favorite?

MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PAST, EH?

If we go by these MORONS here are the lines:

Iona at Duke...Iona 27 point favorite.

Elan at NC...Elan favorite by 30

Towson at Kentucky...Towson 28 point fav.

Hey, the past has nothing to do with the games this year, right?

Here is something out of the past for all geeks.....the last time San Diego won a game at Pep. was....around.....1842.

[OZZE2000]

This guy is too funny. In reality forums need people like him. If you go against his plays you are bound to do very well. I mean someone has to lose so some can win, why not someone with mob connections who doesnt care. The numbers are a joke and mean absolutely nuthing. I took the time to folow the games last night and posted the results and he got offended. What a crock. Good Luck tonight Originally posted by Rothko1000
Hey, more insults from Don Vito!!!! Noone wants your answers or explanations....we just want you to leave! There isn't a single person here who is tailing this bullshit system of yours....zero!!!! The only moron you speak of is the one who would consider tailing a guy with NO YTD!!!!! Please leave and take your revolutionary system to another gambling site!!!!

MODS....this kind of poison needs to be banned from the forum!!!

[OZZE2000]

Yea Id watch my back if I was you. You're starting to piss him off. Originally posted by iwsinc
i hope the godfather doesnt put a hit on me now....:fire:

[Antonio]

Zorro...has mob ties??? What are those :bow: :bow: :ohman: :ohman: :nuts:

[OZZE2000]

I peeped out your wed post and Ive been here 2 days and you are 1-7 in best bets. Maybe I'm confused but those are the bets you posted not the others. All the games are interesting, what counts is what you play. Not interesting, not almost, not woulda, coulda, shoulda, or in your case played but didnt post. I assume best bet means strongest play or is it different in your country. Im sure we would all be great with our almost or thought about plays. What exactly do these numbers mean and where do you get them from or is that a mob secret. Shhhhhhhhh........
I assumed we came here to share information not throw hissy fits when fellow cappers ask questions. Do you play NBA ?
Good Luck I hope you won't be banned but you should be a bit more receptive. we are all out to beat the books, not each other. As for your post from wed you listed a bunch of games and stated 5 best bets which you lost badly all the others don't mean anything. They basically just filled up space. Maybe they did win but they were mentioned not preferred. just like last night you had 3 best bets they all got killed. and you also mentioned a full page of others and they got killed too. Damn even your 100% never lose Stanford play. Keep em coming ...... If anything I can say you are entertaining. I'm in New York often and I'd like to check out your diner as long as you pronmise not to spit in my shake. Originally posted by ZORRO
My answers to the geeks are just in fun.
Why? Why do I answer?

Look at my thread of Weds.
Aside from the best bets that went down 1-4....I SAID THERE WERE SOME GREAT GAMES.....THEY WERE:
VANDY THEY WON
BRADLEY THEY WON
NC GREEN THEY WON
BET AGAINST:
RHODE ISLAND YOU WON
WOFFORD YOU WON
NC WIL. YOU WON

Now...IN MY FUCKING COUNTRY THAT IS A 7-0 RECORD. Am I lying? IS THAT NOT ON MY THREAD?
Where were the geeks and freaks?

Where were the replies about THOSE FUCKING GAMES?

Do I really get mad? Are you kidding me?
I love this bullshit.

Its a lot of fun. As I already said, if you make a milllion bucks at the end of the year you will have nothing but pressure and aggravation all year round. Thats the nature of the beast. If you can't take it...DON'T BET BALLGAMES.

[Stifler's Mom]

This is some of the best shit I have ever seen here. Seriously. I have been trying to avoid commenting in BS threads lately, but I can't resist here.

This forum really has very little to do with picks, or trying to get the whole place to tail you. It's not a competition or a popularity contest.

Everyone sees games differently, and in most cases there's no right or wrong way. Everyone weighs injuries, home field/court, etc differently. Sometimes your view works out on the field/court, and sometimes they don't...which is why none of us are hitting 100%. If anyone had "the answer", I'm guessing all of us would know it by now.

You mentioned the public opinion, when you said "do you think it was the public driving the odds down on an underdog horse?" Do you think we don't know the public opinion means jack shit?

You also mention "Vegas" when you are talking about books. If you knew as much as you say you do, you probably already know that the lines don't originate in Vegas, and Vegas takes about 1% of all action or something like that compared to offshore sportsbooks.

Look at my f'n picks from last night. I went 2-9, which is like my worst night EVER....and not ONE person came in my thread and said "Wow Stif, you suck. How did you come up with those shitty picks" or "I faded your ass and now I'm rich"

You know why? Because I don't stand on the highest mountain I can find and say "I rule. Tail me. This pick is 100% and can't lose." Plus, I don't call people names here. I post a YTD and a real line with my plays. I do not claim to be the freakin supreme Warlord of sports gambling. I do not claim to be someone who i am not. I will admit when I was wrong on a game or games and my plays sucked. I also do not brag and say "told ya I'm the man" when my plays win.

You do every one of those things and then you wonder why people bash you?

You got it all wrong about this forum and what we're all about. If you can't figure it out, I ain't explaining it. There are plenty of forums I've seen that love all this hype and BS, but this ain't one of em.

I think if you just would post your plays WITH a line and keep a record, stop calling people geeks and saying they can't get laid, and stop trying to pretend you're some kind of mobster, people would leave you alone as far as bashing you, and hell, if you are winning, you might even get a few "good job's" and "congrats".

That's what you're looking for anyway right?

[GoldenROD]

I just have one quick question? Are your "MOB" ties anything like the Jerry Garcia ties I wear to work everyday?

[ToP]

Originally posted by GoldenROD
I just have one quick question? Are your "MOB" ties anything like the Jerry Garcia ties I wear to work everyday?

LMAO, more like the Mickey Mouse ties..............Jeez, let's give this guy a break. Zero owns a mobile hot dog stand, a pack of donkeys and is a member of the Columbian Cartel........and he still finds the time to post these plays for us loosers here, with a shit load of typing, might I add. I'm sure he has his secretary post these plays as to not take time away from the other things in his life.


GL tonight, gonna parlay the other sides:thumbs:

[ZORRO]

Originally posted by Tired of Paying
LMAO, more like the Mickey Mouse ties..............Jeez, let's give this guy a break. Zero owns a mobile hot dog stand, a pack of donkeys and is a member of the Columbian Cartel........and he still finds the time to post these plays for us loosers here, with a shit load of typing, might I add. I'm sure he has his secretary post these plays as to not take time away from the other things in his life.


GL tonight, gonna parlay the other sides:thumbs: :beer2:

GREAT REPLY! STILL LAUGHING.

Isn't this great? I talked about a guy I knew who worked for the mob going around the country to check out games. He ate in my restaurant when ever he was in town as he was a single man. Needless to say with that job.

Look at the replies!!!!!!!!

They are all saying that I HAVE SAID I AM IN THE MOB. I didn't say any such thing. I told a story about this guy who did work for the mob. FROM THAT ONE STORY THEY HAVE MADE ME THE GODFATHER.

And...they say something is the matter with me?????? What imaginations on these guys.
Hey, point to where I stated I was in the mob.

Keep it coming...I love it.



:yeah: :prtytme:

[ZORRO]

Oh....for the guys who said they should ban me....check out where your are...this is THE UNITED STATES......not CUBA.

Bet you guys voted for Kerry.

This is a free country. If you believe people don't have the right to speak, or you should tell them what to write, what not to write, get pissed off, or don't get pissed off, you are in the wrong country, join Michael Moore and move to Cuba.:puke:

[Mikeone]

That has nothing to do with getting banned from this forum.

[Stifler's Mom]

Dude, this forum is OWNED by someone. It's a business and their source of income. Are you aware of that?

It's not a platform for free speech where dildos can just come in and spout off anything they want like they were standing on the corner of 8th and franklin st.

If the owners don't like what someone is doing or saying, they have every right to ban their ass.

If someone came in your restaurant and started causing a commotion and chasing off the customers by acting like an asshole, you would throw em out, would you not?

Bottom line is this....NO ONE that is 40+ years old would act like you do. I figure since you say you're a restaurant owner for 20+ years, you gotta be over 40. What kind of man of that age, with all the great things you have going on in your life would waste their time acting like a jerkoff on an internet forum?

By the way, shouldn't you be at your restaurant bullshitting with bookies and mobsters?

You're probably more like 18 and looking for attention.

:puke:

[OZZE2000]

I voted for Kerry but what does that have to do with your best plays going 1-7 the last 2 days with your cant lose 70-30 system(yet to be defined) plays? I wouldn't mind going to Cuba and party with some of those ladies either.

[ZORRO]

Originally posted by Rothko1000
Hey, more insults from Don Vito!!!! Noone wants your answers or explanations....we just want you to leave! There isn't a single person here who is tailing this bullshit system of yours....zero!!!! The only moron you speak of is the one who would consider tailing a guy with NO YTD!!!!! Please leave and take your revolutionary system to another gambling site!!!!

MODS....this kind of poison needs to be banned from the forum!!!

YTD ? What is WTD ? Oh you mean what am I doing in money won and games won. I consider that my own business. If I posted I'm 100-7 on this site what does that put in my pocket?

My only interest is to win 'real money'...not YTD.
Yes...I know.....ban him......boo hoo....boo hoo...I want him banned.

Oh by the way.....who is 'noone'? Oh you mean NO-ONE...I see....sorry!
:beer2: :gulp:

This kind of 'POISON' needs to be banned?
DO YOU MEAN 'PERSON'...p-e-r-s-o-n.
I didn't really understand your reply so I asked my 4 year old grandson to figure it out for me. He understood it completely.

:prtytme:

[OZZE2000]

This Guy is funny as hell. I'm sure he has plenty of time to come on here and bullshit with us between drive thru orders. Clearly he is not going to disclose what planet (system) he pulled those numbers from. I also found it interesting how he claimed all those so called mentioned plays from wed as winners. If you claim those as winners what about all the other losers from last night. The thread has been closed but for those that have not seen it I will repost it here. Whats the special at your eatery? Just curious. Can I supersize that?Originally posted by Stifler's Mom
Dude, this forum is OWNED by someone. It's a business and their source of income. Are you aware of that?

It's not a platform for free speech where dildos can just come in and spout off anything they want like they were standing on the corner of 8th and franklin st.

If the owners don't like what someone is doing or saying, they have every right to ban their ass.

If someone came in your restaurant and started causing a commotion and chasing off the customers by acting like an asshole, you would throw em out, would you not?

Bottom line is this....NO ONE that is 40+ years old would act like you do. I figure since you say you're a restaurant owner for 20+ years, you gotta be over 40. What kind of man of that age, with all the great things you have going on in your life would waste their time acting like a jerkoff on an internet forum?

By the way, shouldn't you be at your restaurant bullshitting with bookies and mobsters?

You're probably more like 18 and looking for attention.

:puke:

[Stifler's Mom]

YTD results ARE how much money you won or lost you freakin bozo, LMFAO :yeah:

Take some of your winnings from your super-system and buy a clue :thumbs:

[ZORRO]

Originally posted by Stifler's Mom
Dude, this forum is OWNED by someone. It's a business and their source of income. Are you aware of that?

It's not a platform for free speech where dildos can just come in and spout off anything they want like they were standing on the corner of 8th and franklin st.

If the owners don't like what someone is doing or saying, they have every right to ban their ass.

If someone came in your restaurant and started causing a commotion and chasing off the customers by acting like an asshole, you would throw em out, would you not?

Bottom line is this....NO ONE that is 40+ years old would act like you do. I figure since you say you're a restaurant owner for 20+ years, you gotta be over 40. What kind of man of that age, with all the great things you have going on in your life would waste their time acting like a jerkoff on an internet forum?

By the way, shouldn't you be at your restaurant bullshitting with bookies and mobsters?

You're probably more like 18 and looking for attention.

:puke:


No, you're wrong. I had 'open heart' done, 5 bi-passes, and I'm now taking it easy at home. BUT....I still run the restaurant. I only do the dinner hour for now. I'm home with a lot of spare time.

This is a lot of fun. For me, very active till the heart attack, I feel like I'm in prison. I also have an office at the restaurant with a computer.

The games? VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT MY FRIEND.
I see where most of these replies have made me understand that the guys don't understand what these percentages mean.
If that is the case, I will no longer post them. If you don't understand what they mean there really is no point in posting them.

As it is, I see a million games for tomorrow that will take me all day to do. If you guys don't get it.....why should I post it?

I'm not into wasting my time even in this situation. Getting over this operation fully will take a long time. I can see that.

But I'm not gonna waste my time posting what people don't understand.

[Mikeone]

What part of PA you from Stiffler.


Zorro I don't care how much money you've won or lost. Everyone just wants to know what your record is so they can see how well your "system" is working.

[devilray]

Zorro was rolling along nicely before this week, Im not sure how you pick Mich State as bad but I hope the best is ahead for Zorro. One of the pics was 2nd on a big picks site and it lost also. So, maybe just a bad streak..

[JAY]

Please explain the system and how it works. What do the percentages mean? Maybe the system is just having a bad week. I don't know but clarify it for us. This forum is a great place to come together with guys that have the same interest, taking the mans money. This going back and fourth is taking away from the real reason we are all here to make money.

[Stifler's Mom]

I'm not basing Zorro's picks or how he comes up with them. That's his business....and like I said before, everyone has their own way to come up with their plays and has to do what he/she thinks will work to produce winners. No one will take him seriously though, if he doesn't keep track of the results of the plays he posts here. It's as simple as that.

Really, why even post plays if you aren't gonna keep track of em so everyone can see how they're doing? All those numbers and percentages mean nothing to me unless they are accompanied by a record so I can see how much they really weigh on the outcome of the games. I sure as hell ain't gonna sit here and keep track of how he's doing.

What I am commenting on however, is all the crap he seems to be starting here. I may have not seen all of it from the beginning, but it does seem he keeps avoiding the questions that are important to people here, yet has plenty of time to post all kinds of other stuff.

I never said he SHOULD be banned or WILL be banned either. That's not for me to decide....

Mikeone, i'm from the eastern part of PA, between Allentown and Harrisburg...like an hour from Philly.

[BIGBALLER]

Guys I believe that the percntages mean this. If Mich has been a 5 pt favorite 20 times the past 5 yrs and covered that number 15 times that equals 75%. Now Mich plays Iowa who is catching 5 and in the past 5 yrs they have covered that number 5 times out of twenty that would be 25%. Therefore you have Mich at 75% vs Iowa at 25% =best bet. I believe the % are based on how many times a team has covered or not covered the number. Just a guess. With that said I would agree with everyone that you need to post your ytd Zorro so that people can choose to either follow or tail your plays. Furthermore I said this in an earlier post Zorro that if you would just post your freaking plays and not the rhetoric people would leave you alone. Anyway hope this hels clarify the % not sure if its correct maybe Z can reply. Good luck tonight everyone. :thumbs:

If you don't like zorro pics and words do what he says. You don;t have to read his threads. Picke shit:puke: Sometimes you guys sound like a bunch of woman:yeah:

[yomonte]

Sorry ZORRON, but your not what were looking for in a member. I have to admit I did not read through all the posts but the first post was enough for me. The rules were put in a sticky in every main section and they are there for a reason. some may think they are a joke and mean nothing, but some will find out the hard way, we mean biness.

GL were ever you go to post, your gonna need it. But it ain't here.

One thing is for sure, all the posts will be read. These rules are for everyone but Kevin, Bobby and Jerbeek.

[JB]

Spoonie.........is that you?