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beermantm
09-25-2004, 01:51 AM
NFL
11-7-0 61.1%

NCAA
22-15-3 59.4%

Right off my computer...............



Iowa +13.0 at Mich Mich (4-2)
BC -1.0 at WakFor WakFor (4-0)
MichSt -3.0 at Indi Indi (6-3)
NorCSt +8.5 at VirgTe NorCSt (4-2)
Kentuc +19.0 at Flor Flor (5-4)
Vandy +8.5 at Navy Navy (3-1)
TexTec -6.5 at Kansas Kansas (5-4)
Miss -3.5 at Wyomin Wyomin (2-1)
AFA +21.0 at Utah AFA (3-2)
Wash +11.5 at ND Wash (5-2)
Syra +26.5 at Virg Virg (4-2)
Clem +18.0 at FlorSt FlorSt (4-1)
WashSt -3.5 at Ariz WashSt (5-3)
PennSt +3.0 at Wiscon Wiscon (6-2)
Temple +8.0 at Toledo Toledo (5-1)
Cinci -11.5 at EasCar EasCar (4-2)
Memp -2.5 at UAB UAB (5-3)
USC -22.5 at Stan Stan (4-2)
Alabam +5.5 at Arkan Arkan (9-1)
SoMiss -13.5 at Tulane Tulane (6-2)
Rice +32.0 at Texas Rice (4-3)
LaTech +23.0 at Tenn LaTech (3-0)
SanJos +1.5 at SMU SanJos (6-3)
MissSt +30.0 at LSU MissSt (4-0)
Nevada +15.0 at SDSU Nevada (6-2)
NorWes +15.0 at Minn NorWes (5-4)
OregSt +7.5 at ArizSt ArizSt (6-3)
NorTex -3.5 at Baylor Baylor (4-2)
Idaho +35.0 at Oregon Oregon (2-1)
ArkSt +6.0 at ULMon ArkSt (6-3)
MTenSt -1.5 at ULLaf ULLaf (6-0)
TroySt +14.0 at SouCar TroySt (10-0)
NewMex -6.5 at NewMSt NewMSt (5-2)
UtahSt +13.0 at UNLV UtahSt (5-3)

May refine these a bit.......but it's what I have for right now.

Superskins
09-25-2004, 01:58 AM
Damn beerman, you wager on all those at one time?
Good luck to ya bro!

BTW, the "World Beer Festival" is here in good 'ole North Carolina tomorrow in Durham, NC. Come one, come all! Over 100 vendors and over 300 beers! Good luck this weekend!

-SS-

beermantm
09-25-2004, 02:03 AM
Damn beerman, you wager on all those at one time?
Good luck to ya bro!

BTW, the "World Beer Festival" is here in good 'ole North Carolina tomorrow in Durham, NC. Come one, come all! Over 100 vendors and over 300 beers! Good luck this weekend!


Well I may refine those because that is alot of games and don't want to throw to much out there at once but we'll see where I end up on these....

jgh
09-25-2004, 02:08 AM
beerman, when you say right off your computer, do you mean you have some sort of program that you punch numbers into and it shoots out the best plays based on these numbers?

beermantm
09-25-2004, 02:18 AM
beerman, when you say right off your computer, do you mean you have some sort of program that you punch numbers into and it shoots out the best plays based on these numbers?

Yes exactly!! It does nothing but numbers and no other factor what so ever. This is a good tool to refine out what you want to take and what not to take.

jnc012001
09-25-2004, 02:21 AM
any numbers on Purdue?

jgh
09-25-2004, 02:24 AM
interesting, did you develop this program yourself? What factors does your program make it's decisons on? If it's to difficult to explain over the computer don't worry about it.

beermantm
09-25-2004, 02:39 AM
any numbers on Purdue?

I will check it out.


interesting, did you develop this program yourself? What factors does your program make it's decisons on? If it's to difficult to explain over the computer don't worry about it.

No I did not. It's called winpicks. You can find it. It uses percentages and adjustments that you imput yourself. After you adjust the numbers there is a tuner that will adjust the formula to hit a better SU, ATS, and Totals. I have a bunch of formula's and about five that I made myself. The percentages it hits are pretty impressive.

Right now the plays that i posted are from a consensus of all the formula's I use. So far for the year the formulas are........

SU = 100-16-0 86.2%
ATS = 99-26-1 79.2% +70.4 units
Totals = 21-15-0 58.3% +4.5 units

So i try to go through these and then see where the public is putting there money. That refines my search for good games. I'm usaully going in against the public on almost evey play unless there is something that makes the game different. So far so good.

Oh and I know nothing about College football!!! LOL so I really don't know who I'm throwing my money on. I just do. It's a bit wierd but I think it gives me an advantage over others because all I see are the numbers.

jnc012001
09-25-2004, 02:44 AM
Awesome job! I've "tailed" you a few times for some $$$ keep up the great work

jgh
09-25-2004, 02:53 AM
Those are some impressive numbers. I'm gonna have to start checking your computers picks, should help narrowing down the field of games. Thanks for taking the time to write back. GL tomorrow,

beermantm
09-25-2004, 02:54 AM
This should give you a good idea of why the systems do so well normally. This is the games I listed and the Percentage that the public is on them.........as you can see almost all go against the public perception of what will happen and these percentages are based on actual bets so it's not just what people think it's what people are laying money on.........


Iowa +13.0 at Mich Mich (4-2) 40%

BC -1.0 at WakFor WakFor (4-0) 24%

MichSt -3.0 at Indi Indi (6-3) 38%

NorCSt +8.5 at VirgTe NorCSt (4-2) 46%

Kentuc +19.0 at Flor Flor (5-4) 31%

Vandy +8.5 at Navy Navy (3-1) 47%

TexTec -6.5 at Kansas Kansas (5-4) 19%

Miss -3.5 at Wyomin Wyomin (2-1) 42%

AFA +21.0 at Utah AFA (3-2) 31%

Wash +11.5 at ND Wash (5-2) 34%

Syra +26.5 at Virg Virg (4-2) 82%

Clem +18.0 at FlorSt FlorSt (4-1) 44%

WashSt -3.5 at Ariz WashSt (5-3) 47%

PennSt +3.0 at Wiscon Wiscon (6-2) 80%

Temple +8.0 at Toledo Toledo (5-1) 74%

Cinci -11.5 at EasCar EasCar (4-2) 21%

Memp -2.5 at UAB UAB (5-3) 40%

USC -22.5 at Stan Stan (4-2) 44%

Alabam +5.5 at Arkan Arkan (9-1) 50%

SoMiss -13.5 at Tulane Tulane (6-2) 18%

Rice +32.0 at Texas Rice (4-3) 23%

LaTech +23.0 at Tenn LaTech (3-0) 39%

SanJos +1.5 at SMU SanJos (6-3) 64%

MissSt +30.0 at LSU MissSt (4-0) 30%

Nevada +15.0 at SDSU Nevada (6-2) 62%

NorWes +15.0 at Minn NorWes (5-4) 34%

OregSt +7.5 at ArizSt ArizSt (6-3) 69%

NorTex -3.5 at Baylor Baylor (4-2) 40%

Idaho +35.0 at Oregon Oregon (2-1) 82%

ArkSt +6.0 at ULMon ArkSt (6-3) 61%

MTenSt -1.5 at ULLaf ULLaf (6-0) 39%

TroySt +14.0 at SouCar TroySt (10-0) 31%

NewMex -6.5 at NewMSt NewMSt (5-2) 56%
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UtahSt +13.0 at UNLV UtahSt (5-3) 66%

There are a few that are standing out right now.......

jgh
09-25-2004, 02:58 AM
Thanks, I'm gonna keep an eye on this. Interested on how these picks turn out. Looks like they were money today since you went 2-0. GL with your picks, thanks again

jnc012001
09-25-2004, 03:00 AM
Yes, hes been dead on quite a few times. Numbers dont lie...usually:)) Would like to see the Purdue and Louisville numbers:) But I know you will get to them when ya can:)

beermantm
09-25-2004, 03:13 AM
Yes, hes been dead on quite a few times. Numbers dont lie...usually:)) Would like to see the Purdue and Louisville numbers:) But I know you will get to them when ya can:)

Purdue game has no recomendation.......it's 2 formula's for Purdue and 2 on ILL...........on the top five systems the play would be ILL pluss the points but again it really make no recomendation on the game.

italian1
09-25-2004, 03:19 AM
Sorry I may be missing something here but how do you read your stats which team do you go with, and what are the (6-2) things.

beermantm
09-25-2004, 03:29 AM
Sorry I may be missing something here but how do you read your stats which team do you go with, and what are the (6-2) things.

Well lets take what you have there .......(6-2) that would mean that out of 8 formula's 6 of them picked that team and 2 were against that team. If it were (4-0) that means 4 formula's made a recomendation on the game and no formula's made a recomendation on the other team. The problem would lie where some one would say that 4-0 is better than 6-2 but this does not prove true. Now when all the formula's or a good amount like 7-0 does put it at a strong play but I bet the same amount on every game so strong plays do not mean treat it as more important and put more money on it. Remeber money management is the key in this game.

This is cool i found the color tags!!!

jnc012001
09-25-2004, 03:34 AM
so, you bet the same on a 6-2 as a 4-0. Say a 9-0 pops up, how many of those have burned ya?

Apollo
09-25-2004, 03:35 AM
Hi Beerman, so in other words do you suggest that playing the following games is a smart idea?

TroySt +14.0
MTenSt -1.5
MissSt +30.0
Alabam +5.5
LaTech +23.0
Temple +8.0
BC -1.0

Thanks.

beermantm
09-25-2004, 03:51 AM
Hi Beerman, so in other words do you suggest that playing the following games is a smart idea?

TroySt +14.0
MTenSt -1.5
MissSt +30.0
Alabam +5.5
LaTech +23.0
Temple +8.0
BC -1.0

Thanks.

I will post everything I like.....I need some time.

so, you bet the same on a 6-2 as a 4-0. Say a 9-0 pops up, how many of those have burned ya?

NO!!! Same amount on every game that makes the play board. Never play any more or any less including on parlays. If i hit my games for say 50 a piece then any and all parlays will also be for 50 a peice. The amount that you bet should never vary untill you have moved your bankroll to almost 100 percent of your starting bankroll.

jnc012001
09-25-2004, 03:54 AM
Yeah, I understand the amount stays the same. So a 9-0 or 10-0 is a "better" bet than a 4-3 or 5-2. Just making sure i'm following you the right way. I sure think I will invest some of my current bank into this little program:)

beermantm
09-25-2004, 04:30 AM
The final cut for today...........




BC -1.0 at WakFor WakFor (4-0) 24% 12:00

MichSt -3.0 at Indi Indi (6-3) 38% 12:00

MissSt +30.0 at LSU MissSt (4-0) 30% 12.30

AFA +21.0 at Utah AFA (3-2) 31% 3:00

Wash +11.5 at ND Wash (5-2) 34% 3:30

Clem +18.0 at FlorSt FlorSt (4-1) 44% 3:30

Alabam +5.5 at Arkan Arkan (9-1) 50% 3:30

Cinci -11.5 at EasCar EasCar (4-2) 21% 7:00

Memp -2.5 at UAB UAB (5-3) 40% 7:00

Rice +32.0 at Texas Rice (4-3) 23% 7:00

LaTech +23.0 at Tenn LaTech (3-0) 39% 7:00

NorTex -3.5 at Baylor Baylor (4-2) 40% 7:00

MTenSt -1.5 at ULLaf ULLaf (6-0) 39% 7:00

TroySt +14.0 at SouCar TroySt (10-0) 31% 7:00

SoMiss -13.5 at Tulane Tulane (6-2) 18% 8:00

Nevada +15.0 at SDSU Nevada (6-2) 62% 9:00

NorWes +15.0 at Minn NorWes (5-4) 34% 9:00





Good luck:gulp:

beermantm
09-25-2004, 03:51 PM
Looks like 1-2-0 on the early games........hoping to bounce it back a bit tonight.

beermantm
09-25-2004, 07:11 PM
we're at 4-3-0 right now....hopefully can add to this a bit more with the games right now.......be back later to update.

I hate being at work while football is on!!!

(edit on the record 3-3-1 on the posted pointspread....I ended up with a line of 22 on airforce at my book so that was my mistake on the W's.......oh well still a win for me)

(edit again.......wtf am I thinking they lost by 14!! so it's back to 4-3-0 LOL )

Work still sucks!!
GL:thumbs:

beermantm
09-25-2004, 10:57 PM
Well we cleaned it up a bit.........so far 10-4-0 with 3 pending. Even if I lose the rest I would still be three games up so another good day. :gulp:

larry4498
09-25-2004, 11:07 PM
I'm confused it looks like you are at this time
3-9-1

beermantm
09-25-2004, 11:13 PM
I'm confused it looks like you are at this time
3-9-1

What plays are you looking at? Everything I posted for today my final cut plays and all the play from the computer are up............

You got me confused!!!

larry4498
09-25-2004, 11:17 PM
First let me say I'm not try to mess with you


BC
Miss St
Wash
Clem
Ala
Cincy
Memphis
La Tech
N Texas

None of these teams covered

am I reading your post wrong?

beermantm
09-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Tulane is in so I lost that one also ..............

record update now at 10-5-0 for the day..........

beermantm
09-25-2004, 11:20 PM
First let me say I'm not try to mess with you


BC
Miss St
Wash
Clem
Ala
Cincy
Memphis
La Tech
N Texas

Stop!!! I know your problem!!! You better read those picks a bit closer..........the game is listed first then the pick........

BC -1.0 at WakFor............. WakFor...........(4-0) 24% 12:00

then the % of public and then the time it's at. I put ...........in the middle so you can read it better.

larry4498
09-25-2004, 11:23 PM
Awesome!!! Great Day!!!

I guess I shouldn't drink when I try to read post.

Sorry for the confusion.

GL on the rest of your plays!!

larry4498
09-25-2004, 11:23 PM
except for you N'western play, I have Minny! LOL!

beermantm
09-25-2004, 11:26 PM
Thank you!! That one is still a toss up!! I'm hoping to nail that one because it's my only hope left for the night.

either way GL

beermantm
09-26-2004, 12:33 AM
well I'm 10-6-0 for the day with nevada pending it looks like a loss right now but I have to go I will update later.

Bobo66
09-26-2004, 12:39 AM
Beermantm......I just wanted to say that you are great asset to this forum. It is very obvious to me that you are bright. Keep up the solid work!

:thumbs:

beermantm
09-26-2004, 12:51 AM
Beermantm......I just wanted to say that you are great asset to this forum. It is very obvious to me that you are bright. Keep up the solid work!

Bobo66

Thanks bro I work hard on trying to win week in and week out but it is not to easy to keep up the pace. I'm glad you and others can appreciate it. I will be working hard on college for the rest of this year as i can see there is truely a ton of value you can find.

beermantm
09-26-2004, 02:24 AM
RESULTS OF ALL THE COMPUTER PLAYS!!!!!!!!


Iowa +13.5 at Mich Mich (4-2) 17-30..... LOST
BC -1.5 at WakFor WakFor (3-0) 14-17....... WON
MichSt -3.0 at Indi Indi (6-3) 30-20 ..... LOST
NorCSt +7.5 at VirgTe NorCSt (6-2) 17-16... WON
Kentuc +19.0 at Flor Flor (5-4) 03-20 .... LOST
Vandy +8.5 at Navy Navy (3-1) 26-29 ..... LOST
TexTec -6.0 at Kansas Kansas (5-4) 31-30..... WON
Miss -3.5 at Wyomin Wyomin (2-1) 32-37..... WON
Wash +13.0 at ND Wash (4-2) 03-38.... LOST
Syra +28.0 at Virg Virg (4-1) 10-31..... LOST
Clem +17.5 at FlorSt FlorSt (3-1) 22-41..... WON
WashSt -3.5 at Ariz WashSt (5-3) 20-19........ LOST
PennSt +3.0 at Wiscon Wiscon (6-2) 03-16 ..... WON
Mary -17.0 at Duke Mary (4-1) 55-21 ....... WON
Temple +6.5 at Toledo Toledo (5-2) 17-45....... WON
Cinci -11.5 at EasCar EasCar (4-2) 24-19 ....... WON
Memp -1.5 at UAB UAB (5-2) 28-35 ..... WON
USC -22.5 at Stan Stan (4-2) 31-28 ....... WON
Alabam +4.5 at Arkan Arkan (9-2) 10-27..... WON
SoMiss -13.5 at Tulane Tulane (6-2) 32-14....... LOST
SFlori +12.5 at TCU TCU (5-3) 45-44 ..... LOST
Rice +32.5 at Texas Rice (4-3) 13-35 ........ WON
LaTech +23.0 at Tenn LaTech (3-0) 17-42 ..... LOST
SanJos +1.5 at SMU SanJos (6-3) 13-36 ..... LOST
MissSt +30.5 at LSU MissSt (4-0) 00-51 ........ LOST
Nevada +15.0 at SDSU Nevada (5-2) 10-27...... LOST
NorWes +14.0 at Minn NorWes (5-3) 17-43 ..... LOST
OregSt +7.0 at ArizSt ArizSt (6-3) 14-27 ....... WON
NorTex -3.5 at Baylor Baylor (4-2) 14-37 ..... WON
Idaho +35.0 at Oregon Oregon (3-0) 10-48 .... WON
ArkSt +6.0 at ULMon ArkSt (6-3) 28-21.... WON
MTenSt -2.5 at ULLaf ULLaf (5-0) 17-24 ..... WON
TroySt +14.5 at SouCar TroySt (10-0) 07-17... WON
UtahSt +13.0 at UNLV UtahSt (5-3) 31-21..... WON

Results .................................................. ............... 20-14-0 58.8%

beermantm
09-26-2004, 02:27 AM
Personal Record.........

9/25.....................

NFL
11-7-0 61.1%

NCAA
32-22-3 59.2%