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Meestermike
01-30-2007, 11:16 PM
Let me introduce myself along with the vast majority of gamblers like myself.

You go to work. You pay taxes on what you earn.

You go to the store, out to eat, getting gas, you pay taxes on what you buy from the money that you earned that you were taxed on.

You are told you can't gamble legally unless you go to a casino, and that if you win money at that casino, you are taxed on your winnings. The winnings that came from the money used from your work, that you were already taxed on.

You are told you live in the land of the free, home of the brave. Let freedom ring, have freedom of speech, and that as a citizen you have rights.

You want to be able to use/spend your money that you want to. You like to gamble, You can't fly to Vegas to bet on sports every day. You would go broke. So you shut me down from online, because you can't use Pay Pal, Neteller, Western Union or Fire Pay.

You guess the good thing is with all this money you won't have a use for, you can start a new hobby.

Say drugs and then you can get so high you can go kill somebody and maybe get a reduced sentence because you weren't in the right frame of mind, and under the influence.

Maybe you could start a gun collection, and every time, you know you would've bet on that team and it wins, you could go on a shooting spree. You could say temporary insanity, and go to a mental hospital and live with the crazies. Because after all you along with millions of others are going to go crazy if they can't bet on their favorite team, sport, or as you call it investment.

But what it will really boil down to, is you will get back to legalized gambling by buying calls and puts on the option markets. When you make money, you can rape me again by taxing me, and when you have a few losers, you can claim it on my taxes to offset my gains.

After all you will be helping the economy by keeping the legalized crooks in business.

Seriously though, because of a few nut jobs in a foreign country that don't like what the government or Americans do, you and others are held hostage in your own country.

If you want to play a little poker, bet on some horses, bet on the big game, or play some black jack, you can't do it online anymore, or at least you're pretty damn close to not being able to do it.

You guess you can always watch that ever present Oprah and learn how to feed the poor with your extra money, or better yet, you can go to a foreign country and teach them the ways of gambling.

In any event, you are one of millions being held hostage in America.

Stifler's Mom
01-30-2007, 11:41 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself Mike.

Our gov't has become a complete piece of shit (I know you're Canadian....and when I say "our", I mean us Americans)....not just on this online gambling issue, but on all sorts of issues facing us.

Seriously, how hypocritic is it to tell me I can place a wager in Las Vegas, but not online? How rediculous is it to say I can play poker or blackjack in Vegas or Atlantic City, or on some Indian reservation, but not online?

Why? Because it's all about the $$$$. Our gov't gets a large piece of money lost in Vegas and Atlantic City. They get nada from offshore books/casinos.

That's like saying it's ok to steal or kill in Illinois, Wisconsin or Louisiana, but not in any other state. How rediculous would that be?

Don't get me wrong, I love my country and what it stands for, but I refuse to be blinded by patriotism on this or any other issue, and what our gov't has become is FAR from what our founding fathers had in mind IMO.

I mean really....don't our esteemed leaders see a problem with what they're doing? Aren't we the ONLY country in the world with sanctions against betting on sports? I'm not 100% positive, but if we aren't, there aren't many others. It's just fucking rediculous.

It's not just one man either, or even a few. It's our entire gov't that is heading in completely the wrong direction....and that is fucking sad.

"And now you do what they told ya".....

FlyersFan
01-30-2007, 11:56 PM
stif- there are a large number of americans who go to the polls every november (or every other november) and basically vote for the lesser of 2 or more evils. that is what our government has become, a bunch of self serving ass clowns. the sad thing is we really don't have any choices as americans as to our representation. it's like being a straight male and given the choice for your next sexual encounter to be taking it in the ass or giving a guy a blow job. i mean what kind of choice is that? but it is the same choice we face at the polls every november (or at least that is how i feel). both parties suck, the whole government sucks and people are fed up with it. i know i have probably beat this horse to death, but we have so many problems in CA stemming from illegal immigration, and they could care less. they just let 'em pour into the country. and i pay for each and every one of them, we all do.

we are all being held hostage in our own country because we really don't have a say in anything. america is a great place, our government is a joke.

NittanyLions94
01-31-2007, 12:40 AM
Shouldn't our government have bigger fish to fry than the guy betting 10 bucks on the Super Bowl? Maybe, oh let's say, THE GODDAMN WAR WE FK'N STARTED!?!?!??! These people boggle my mind with their agendas and BS laws.

shorts
01-31-2007, 11:20 AM
While we're at it...ya know what really chaps my ass!!

I can go down to the local party store by my strohs and spend my whole paycheck on lottery tickets.... That's not gambling! This money is supposed to be going to the schools...hummm they just raised my taxes to pay for a new public school....I pay for my kids to go to the parochial school!!!

Then there is the builder that wants to build the slums behind my house and city council wants to had it over to them. It's our tax dollars building this and I have no say.....I'm going to the next city council meeting which is the day after the superbowl...That pisses me off too since I took a vacation day and planned on sitting at the Eagles and knocking back a few Strohs! Now that I mention the Eagles...the government is now telling us we can't smoke in our own private club...WTF.... Remember they tax the hell out of my smokes too so when we all quit where the hell is that money going to come from....they try to touch my beer and that's it I'm joining the Malitia!!

OK I'm done!

Wait a minute....the next time someone comes up to me at the bar and starts bitching about the govt, because they read my name in the paper bitching at city council, and then tells me they're not registered to vote can kiss my ass!

Now I'm done!

yomonte
01-31-2007, 07:30 PM
Why can't the goverment set up something like they have in Canada but not just parlays. No big ass casino, just like an OTB like in NY. Just go in, get in line, and make a bet. No poker tables, no craps tables, just sports betting. Now how hard is that. I also don't agree that we should be taxed when we get paid, pay taxes when we spend the money that has been taxed already and pay taxes every year on what we bought. I will continue to bet on one side of the coin or the other. it really don't make a fuck which, pick one. Give me a place to bet or I'll give them a place. I already have a partner with deep pockets. When Oly goes down, I'm going up. Tick mthrfk tock

FlyersFan
01-31-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by yomonte
I already have a partner with deep pockets. When Oly goes down, I'm going up.

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