ATP - Paris (10/30 - 11/5)

[coreyschucky]

BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France - Indoors, Carpet

http://www.fft.fr/bnpparibasmasters/


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Sharukh10]

Is there a place to find an analysis of all the Shanghai scenarios, or can someone more familar with the ranking system explain what has to happen for each of the bubble boys to get in.

Thanks.

[Horatio]

this is from the atptennis.com site, and there is a deeper expalanation there. Hey CNote, why don't we try to place in that contest they are having there? Prizes kinda suck, but what the heck, we could give it a UC shot...

http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/newsandscores/news/news3.asp

[coreyschucky]

Horatio - I joined already. 1-6 i did the same. I had Fena as 7 and Blake as 8. Who know's? Prizes due suck like u said but it's worth a shot.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Paris

50* Jose Acasuso (-390) Over Christophe Rochus - 11:15 AM
10* Nicolas Almagro (-178) Over Jonas Bjorkman - 5:00 AM
10* Kristof Vliegen (-155) Over Florent Serra - 8:45 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Sharukh10]

New to Tennis

Any place have better lines than Pinnacle, or is it the best like for other sports?

[recovering77]

oops, same name people? I bet on the wrong guy. owell.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Sharukh10
New to Tennis

Any place have better lines than Pinnacle, or is it the best like for other sports?

Best two sites for tennis lines are Pinnacle & 5Dimes. There are a few others that are pretty good but when it comes to the total package including other sports there are no better then those two.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Paris

10* Paul-Henri Mathieu (-245) Over Andreas Seppi - 10:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

I deleted the Yeo-Tzoo Wang Challenger play. Luzzi was replaced in the draw by Tomislav Peric so the bet is now VOID.

[paco-g]

This one is going the distance! 2:30 and counting... Almagro finally broke him in the 3rd set, let's GO!!!

Edit: 3 hours 5 minutes and 30 seconds.... ALMAGRO came through! :thumbs:

[coreyschucky]

Paco he came through in the TB:thumbs:

Almagro won 6-7, 7-6, 7-6!!!!

Paris: 1-0 (+10 units) with 3 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[vazman05]

Almagro...wow...nice...ileft my house he was losing, i get to school, log on real quick, and i see he has won...great call corey...another great start...maybe a repeat of last week...:yeah:

[vazman05]

corey-any opinion on Vliegen/Serra ...i know Vliegen was tough 2 weeks ago...think he can ride that momentum out here?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-any opinion on Vliegen/Serra ...i know Vliegen was tough 2 weeks ago...think he can ride that momentum out here?

I'm on Vliegen already. I hating betting on or against Serra though as when he's a fave he loses and when he's a dog he wins. Just think Vliegen is a power player for this surface and his serve should help him win this match.

[vazman05]

thanks man...corey how do you goabout cancelling a wager, because i used the live help on 5dimes to cancel the Yeo-Tzoo Wang Challenger play and now when i go place a wager, its telling me i have to call in to reactivate my account...:bang:

[WayneWonder]

Max Mirnyi +116 5 units

I like the Beast in this spot over Ginepri, who has not fared so well on the carpet throughout his career. He is just 4-6 in his L10 while Mirnyi is 7-3 and has played on the carpet in each of his last three tournaments. H2H is tied at one each, with Ginepri winning the most recent match, a three-setter on clay in Rome. Mirnyi is also 8-2 in his L10 at Paris while Ginepri has won her just once.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
thanks man...corey how do you goabout cancelling a wager, because i used the live help on 5dimes to cancel the Yeo-Tzoo Wang Challenger play and now when i go place a wager, its telling me i have to call in to reactivate my account...:bang:

The bet gets cancelled itself. Mine was already cancelled by 5Dimes. You can't cancel it yourself they VOID it due to the matchup changing.

[BeyondTheGame]

Followed you on the Almagro game - very good call
:thx:

I love watching the Masters Series as we get it Live In Australia, really good to watch a match like the Almagro game, the problem with him is Unforced errors he made the game more of a problem then what it really was. Can tell he is a clay player, but he hasnt been doing too badly this year on other surfaces - Wimbledon comes to mind.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by WayneWonder
Max Mirnyi +116 5 units

I like the Beast in this spot over Ginepri, who has not fared so well on the carpet throughout his career. He is just 4-6 in his L10 while Mirnyi is 7-3 and has played on the carpet in each of his last three tournaments. H2H is tied at one each, with Ginepri winning the most recent match, a three-setter on clay in Rome. Mirnyi is also 8-2 in his L10 at Paris while Ginepri has won her just once.

Nice dog play Wayne but I'm not touching it as Max went deep last week then had to travel to paris to play qualies saturday and sunday and was not given any favos by playing again on monday. Good Luck!!!!:thumbs:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by BeyondTheGame
Followed you on the Almagro game - very good call
:thx:

I love watching the Masters Series as we get it Live In Australia, really good to watch a match like the Almagro game, the problem with him is Unforced errors he made the game more of a problem then what it really was. Can tell he is a clay player, but he hasnt been doing too badly this year on other surfaces - Wimbledon comes to mind.

Almagro has tons of talent but has a habit to let it get away from him. The kid has tons of power which i think can translate to better results outside clay. old man showed some grit in the 3rd set but fortunately Almagro finished him off in the TB.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Aachen, Germany

10* Sergiy Stakhovsky (-180) Over James Auckland - 11:00 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[vazman05]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Monday

Challenger Series: Aachen, Germany

10* Sergiy Stakhovsky (-180) Over James Auckland - 11:00 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

line already jumped out to -200....gl corey!

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
line already jumped out to -200....gl corey!

B/C of my bet. Everytime there is a bet to win $100 it moves the line a little at 5Dimes.

[vazman05]

kinda pissed at myself that i didnt place a wager on o.rochus this morning against tipsarvic...rochus has to be one of those guys on the ATP who is very very solid, and gets no recognition....maybe because of his height or something, but he is a very hard nosed player IMO

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
kinda pissed at myself that i didnt place a wager on o.rochus this morning against tipsarvic...rochus has to be one of those guys on the ATP who is very very solid, and gets no recognition....maybe because of his height or something, but he is a very hard nosed player IMO

Was very wary of that match. Tipsy has been in excellent form heading into that match and just wiped the floor with Rochus in his own home tourney. Kind of glad I stayed away and I'm glad for Rochus as he's a very likeable player.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Louisville, Kentucky

10* Michael Russell (-195) Over Robin Haase - 1:00 PM
10* Paul Capdeville (-225) Over Jamie Baker - 1:00 PM
10* Amer Delic (-230) Over Ryan Sweeting - 6:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Rimouski, Canada

10* Brian Wilson (-165) Over Rob Steckley - 1:15 PM
10* Dawd Olejniczak(-155) Over Yohny Romero - 5:00 PM
10* Rik De Voest (-160) Over Jean Claude Scherrer - 6:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

Chucky, any word on why the Kostanic line is so low?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
Chucky, any word on why the Kostanic line is so low?

Other then it's a tough matchup no there is no reason.

[coreyschucky]

Vliegen won 3-6, 6-3, 7-6!!!!
Stakhovsky won 6-3, 6-2!!!!
Mathieu won!!!!
Acasuso lost 6-4, 6-7, 4-6
Russell lost 6-7, 6-7
Capdeville won 6-4, 6-2!!!!
Delic won 6-4, 6-4!!!!

Paris: 3-1 (-165 units) :puke:
Challenger Series: 3-1 (+10.05 units) with 3 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

Vliegen and Acusaso both miss opportunities at breaks in their respective games. Florent Serra lookin really good. I had originally taken him as a small play but decided to go against it after ur post. So far all fav's again?

[coreyschucky]

Acasuso just broke in the 2nd and Vliegen in a dogfight with Serra. Man Serra has a tendency to be such a tough player. Also really tough to read as well.

[recovering77]

Acusaso is almost as heart attack as Nalbandian. Second time he's down 0-40 while protecting a break point and he comes through again saving it.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
Acusaso is almost as heart attack as Nalbandian. Second time he's down 0-40 while protecting a break point and he comes through again saving it.

Two different categories. Chucho is doing it in a game before coming back while Nalbandian falls down 1 or 2 breaks in a set before pulling off a magical comeback.

[recovering77]

Lost Acusaso's break Serra up 15-40, but that guy somehow saves the match. I thought it was over.

[recovering77]

Vliegen saves the match, Serra just handed that one over to him with 2 break points that he couldn't capitalize on. Acsusaso I dunno, it's iffy.

[coreyschucky]

Vliegen saves 2 MP's and still wins after blowing a 4-1 lead in the TB.:thumbs:

[coreyschucky]

Fuck Chucho blew the 2nd set TB...OMG!!!!:bang:

Unreal Chucho gets broken to start the 3rd:puke:

[recovering77]

if that motherfucker loses i lose all my profits today.

FUCK HE JUST LOST A BREAK.

[coreyschucky]

I can't believe this is happening. C. Rochus got crushed yesterday by Spadea and somehow is now beating Chucho. OMG. Chucho please comeback!!!!

[recovering77]

failed attempt at breaking him third set. Looks like I'll have to add to my bet on the vikings tonight to try and break even.

[coreyschucky]

Unfuckingbelievable:bang: :puke: Acasuso how can you lose this match...UNREAL...I lost alot of money on this one.

[paco-g]

:bang: :bang: :bang:

Damn that wasn't good... Acasuso at -380 was a bit pricey, cuz C. Rochus has beaten him the last three times according to the tennis insight page. Argh :bang: :bang: :bang:

Okay lets go gotta get it back!

[green21]

Corey do you think Robredo/Verdasco can pull the upset of the Bryan Brothers tonight? Robredo/Verdasco are a +500 dog against them.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by green21
Corey do you think Robredo/Verdasco can pull the upset of the Bryan Brothers tonight? Robredo/Verdasco are a +500 dog against them.

Probably not but you never know due to the way doubles plays sometimes.

[Sharukh10]

Corey,

Where do you get updated challenger results.

I'm guessing there are no live scores for them anywhere.

Tough break with Acasuso good luck with the rest of your picks.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Sharukh10
Corey,

Where do you get updated challenger results.

I'm guessing there are no live scores for them anywhere.

Tough break with Acasuso good luck with the rest of your picks.

All i know so far is Haase def. Russell 7-6, 7-6 and Capdeville won the 1st set 6-4.

[Horatio]

just got in to see the Chucho result. ack....glad i did not suffer through that one set by set, as I was on it as well. Damn.:bang:

[paco-g]

Originally posted by recovering77
failed attempt at breaking him third set. Looks like I'll have to add to my bet on the vikings tonight to try and break even.

Gotta remember, it's a marathon not a sprint! So let's not get in over our head!

Good luck let's get it back!

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Seoul, Korea

10* Alexander Peya (-230) Over Nick Monroe - 8:00 PM
10* Jan Mertl (-235) Over Kyu Tae Im - 9:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Sharukh10]

Who are you guys playing tomorrow?

I'm looking at Grosjean, since malisse is hurt and grosjean is at home.

Also, I think Almagro might be a good value pick - when is the last time tursunov won a match.

Clement is in better form than Massu and should win, however, i don't kno about the price around -230.

[coreyschucky]

Going to have a few more.

Tuesday

Paris

50* Stanislas Wawrinka (-155) Over Marc Gicquel - 7:15 AM
10* Sebastian Grosjean (-175) Over Xavier Malisse - 6:00 AM
10* Arnaud Clement (-245) Over Nicolas Massu - 7:15 AM
10* Thomas Johansson (-235) Over Vincent Spadea - 10:15 AM
5* Igor Andreev (+260) Over Gael Monfils - 2:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

is grosjean injured or something? or is the X man being highly valued here?

[Gamehendge]

def some tuffys! gl on the card though

[Gamehendge]

I'm looking at Grosjean :yeah:

[recovering77]

im about to bet my whole bankroll on it. Malisse is not good enough to beat a legit player.

[Gamehendge]

also....Stanislas Wawrinka :yeah:

[Gamehendge]

and....:yeah: :thumbs:

[Gamehendge]

i agree, but the whole bank......maybe half??

[recovering77]

after minnesota cost me 12 units tonight im kinda tilted.

[recovering77]

grosjean should be pretty tired though, he's played in every tournament for like the past month or so.

[recovering77]

Malisse will be forgiven for losing to Mardy Fish if he just loses this match like he's suppose to.

[Johnny Racetracks]

Santoro +104 to beat Benneteau

Benneteau is best on clay and hasn't shown much on carpet. Plus he is much better at doubles compared to singles. I'm taking the crafty veteran Santoro here.

[Psylence]

I think Ferrer is a bit overpriced against Ginepri what does everyone thing?

*.50 unit on Ferrer @ 2.50

[Gamehendge]

just a bit, but still worth the risk

[Gamehendge]

actually now that i think about it, it's just about right.

[Gamehendge]

anyone else have an opinion??

[paco-g]

Corey, just wondering what you see in the Wawrinka-Gicquel match that made you put a heavy bet on Wawrinka... seems like a pretty even match overall...

[paco-g]

Actually, what was the price on Tursunov-Almagro?

That would have been a good bet on Tursonov considering Almagro played 3 hours yesterday...

[Psylence]

Hmm Ferrer dropped from 2.5 to 2.3 few people must be getting on

[recovering77]

if you were on either side of those retirements I'm sorry. I think a lot of people are pulling out as of late. Late season fatigue.

In good news, Grosjean took the first set 6-1 =)

[recovering77]

fuck, bad luck as soon as I wake up. Malisse with a second set break.

[recovering77]

nevermind, I forgot that Malisse sucks at defending his serve, that's the only reason Mardy Fish beat him.

[recovering77]

this is going to be a long match. Malisse breaks him first game, then Grosjean breaks him back, then Malisse again, now grosjean back again.

Malisse must be one of the best return men in the game.

[coreyschucky]

Sorry guys I wasn't around but I took Grosjean for two reasons...First supposedly X-Man was carrying a knee injury he picked up last week into this match and Secondly Grosjean owns X-Man to a tune of 7-0 in his career. As for why I like Wawa over Gicquel it comes down to more talent. Wawa showed alot last week and has played very well indoors. Although Gicquel has played quite well of late and traditionally does well in France I feel Wawa's game should put him ahead here.

[BeyondTheGame]

Just watching on tely here, Grosjean has the better of Melisse, Grosjean keeps hitting to the backhand side of Melisse which has been weak during this game I think its 16 or so unforced errors off the backhand, and Grosjean is playing very well here, just a fe mental laspes here and there.

Edit: In the end it was the Forehand Error that cost Melisse the match! - Good Game Highly Enjoyable!

Thanks for the Winner Corey!

[recovering77]

we have tiebreak in the grosjean match. Just let it end, I got whole bankroll on this .

[paco-g]

By the way, so I assume 5Dimes pays out even though a player retires early from the match?

And isn't this getting a lil old, seems like a lot of players are bailing out, retiring, and withdrawing from tournaments...

:gulp: Grosjean:gulp:

[WayneWonder]

Benneteau +122 over Santoro 7 units

I just don't see where the value is with Santoro. These two have only met once before, in 2003, and Santoro may have an edge there as Benneteau will have to get used to all his crazy spins. Otherwise the stats all favor Julien.

Santoro has flamed out of the first round in six of his last seven tournamenet. He made a nice run at the Moscow Open, winning three matches, his only three wins in his L10 matches.

Corey, is there anything I am missing with Benneteau??? I appreciated the heads up on Mirnyi yesterday, but just do not see any reason why Santoro should be favored in this match. That scares me a little since he is the favorite.

WTD Record: 0-1 -.5.00 units

[recovering77]

grosjean finished him off =).

should I try my luck on some other matches today?

I'm thinking about tailing chucky on Wawrinka and TJ, but I also like Bennetteu and Safin. My man robbie is not gonna come through today.

[coreyschucky]

Santoro likes this tourney and he is a very tough player to play against. Should be a tight match maybe 3 sets but according to way the line moved all the money is on Santoro. Benneteau opened as a -120 fave and is now a +120 dog.

[recovering77]

Wawrinka takes the first set. Giquel misses on his chance to serve for the set in the tiebreak.

[BeyondTheGame]

Wawrinka!! Won the first thank god after Gicquel had set point fantastic game there better than this Clement and Massu one.

[Horatio]

boy the money keeps piling on Santoro, -141 now....I am a bit surprised at that as mentioned above by others. I like Santoro's game, but he has not been playing all that well of late...I suppose I will give it a pass, but I am puzzled at the way that line has gone...

[recovering77]

damn this doesn't look good for me. Giquel is pounding Wawrinka in the tie break and Santoro came out firing!

[Daws1089]

corey-

which site usually has the best lines for tennis?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Daws1089
corey-

which site usually has the best lines for tennis?

www.pinnaclesports.com
www.5dimes.com

If you want early lines the best place is Pinnacle. If you want Challenger or doubles lines 5Dimes is the only place. You can parlay matches at 5Dimes but you can't at Pinnacle. There generally is a small price difference between the two sites but those two are the only ones i recommend.

[recovering77]

these matches are battles. all I see is 40/40 on both screens.

[coreyschucky]

I just Wawa is going to lose now. 0/9 in bp oppurtunities. He had 3 bp's in one game and let gicquel rattle off 5 straight pts. Just isn't able to finish him off.

[coreyschucky]

Wawa up 5-1 in TB....C"MON WAWA!!!!
6-2 Four MP"s for Stan the Man!!!

[coreyschucky]

Stan pulls it OFF:thumbs:

[BeyondTheGame]

Finally Wazza does it!

[recovering77]

Wawrinka pulls through, need TJ and Julien for a sweep today.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by BeyondTheGame
Finally Wazza does it!

Wawa had an unbelievable 90% 1st serve win pct in the match. Way to win your serve.

[Sharukh10]

I'll forget about blowing like 8 BP/MP's in the final set. Gicquel won alot of 2nd serve points.

[Sharukh10]

Anyone using the tennis masters TV website to watch Paris?

If so, my screen will only play for a few minutes and then it'll break up and turn black. Sometimes it won't play it at all.

I'm positive i have the lastest IE, WMP, etc.

Any Suggestions?

[coreyschucky]

Wawrinka won 7-6, 6-7, 7-6!!!!
Grosjean won 6-1, 7-6!!!!
Clement won 6-2, 6-4!!!!
Johansson won 7-6, 7-6!!!!
Andreev won 7-5, 6-4!!!!
Peya won!!!!
Mertl lost
Olejniczak won!!!!
De Voest lost
Wilson lost

Paris: 8-1 (-52 units) :puke: Making my comeback:thumbs:
Challenger Series: 5-3 (-14.95 units)

Horrible start to the week but getting better...Goal at this point is to get back to positive on both sides and I'm confident I'll do it.


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Tuesday

Challenger Series: Riminski, Canada

20* Richard Bloomfield (-230) Over Matthias Bachinger - 12:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

chucky, what do u think about Knowles and Nester -260 Vs. Melzer and Knowle?

Knowles and Nester are one of the best doubles teams, one Melzer isn't too shabby himself.

u think this is a good bet?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
chucky, what do u think about Knowles and Nester -260 Vs. Melzer and Knowle?

Knowles and Nester are one of the best doubles teams, one Melzer isn't too shabby himself.

u think this is a good bet?

Not really imo. Although Knowles/Nestor should win they I've seen some strange results in doubles lately. best to lay off.

[recovering77]

darn I was about to go big too. Depending on the way my other matches go, Ill think about it.

[recovering77]

Julien came through, pretty surprised. Safin drops first set.

how's that challenger going chucky? I bet on that one too.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
Julien came through, pretty surprised. Safin drops first set.

how's that challenger going chucky? I bet on that one too.

No updates sorry that tourney gives no updates on matches. will try and post when i hear something.

[recovering77]

Johannson comes through, Safin takes 2 breaks back in second set and we're grinding a third.

I think I'll lay off an extra play on knowles nester for now.

appreciate the updates chucky.

[coreyschucky]

One more. On paper this should be a complete mismatch.

Tuesday

Challenger Series: Riminski, Canada

15* Yen-Hsun Lu (-600) Over Erik Chvojka - 2:45 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

we have a break in the Safin match!

wow if safin wins all I need is davydenko and monfils to hit a small 7 match parlay.

[recovering77]

Safin holds him off. Monfils and Knowles Nester to finish an excellent day pleease.


damn, forgot i bet on bloomdfield, need him too.

[coreyschucky]

Does everyone see what Davydenko is doing to Rochus right now...6-0, 2-0....Chucho you really fucking blew it yesterday. You should have never lost that match.

[recovering77]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Does everyone see what Davydenko is doing to Rochus right now...6-0, 2-0....Chucho you really fucking blew it yesterday. You should have never lost that match.


I guess Davydenko -5.5 -150 was a pretty good bet then.

[coreyschucky]

Recovering - Bloomfield dropped the 1st set and is tied 5-5 in the 2nd:bang:

[recovering77]

what site u using? i probably wont even get to see the end. I have an exam in 20 mins.

damn davydenko skunked that motherfucker. 6-0 6-0. Couldnt even win one game. that is embarassing. 35 mins.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
what site u using? i probably wont even get to see the end. I have an exam in 20 mins.

damn davydenko skunked that motherfucker. 6-0 6-0. Couldnt even win one game. that is embarassing. 35 mins.

can't post it here. basically someone called and they said bachinger won the 1st set with no score given and it was 5-5 in the 2nd.

[recovering77]

blower, owell, if knowles nester comes through I don't really mind. If they lose, oh god itll be horrible way to end a day where i picked 6/7 right.

[coreyschucky]

Igoooooooooooorrrrrrrr!!!!! Nice way to comeback and win your first match after injury. Man am I glad he's back. A nice +260 dog. Shrinking down the losses so far. Hopefully it'll continue.

[recovering77]

what way to blow my parlay igor. owell, I had a small parlay on his and nester knowles.

any word on the challenger match chucky?

its still pending for me.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
what way to blow my parlay igor. owell, I had a small parlay on his and nester knowles.

any word on the challenger match chucky?

its still pending for me.

Nope no word...Sorry...Actually I think he might have lost but I don't have confirmation. Found out something on a british website but no score and i'm not sure how accurate it is.

[recovering77]

damn knowle and Melzer are on their game today. 7/7 break points saved. way to rip a guys heart out when its 40-15 twice and u come back and take both games.

[Horatio]

clawing his way back up the rankings and seems to do very well in this tournament. I think Gonzo handles Benneteau with relative ease...any strong thoughts on upcoming matches anyone??:gulp:

[Sharukh10]

Early Line for Gonzalez vs. Benneteau is -320.

I don't see gonzalez having much trouble looks like a good price. Benneteau was a in a war and santoro should have put him away.

Also i know murray hasn't done much lately, but this is a good surface for him and Chela didn't need to do much to beat srichaphan, so it wasn't impressive.

Murray -278 looks enticing.

Not to go with all the favorites, I also like Ancic -285.

Vliegen had a hard time breaking serra, i think ancic can pull through 6-4 6-4.

What do you guys think.

[Personafied]

Man, I dont understand tennis. I look at the scores and I have no clue whats going on. Like there are brackets with a score in it. Still trying to figure out how Wawa won but I'm glad he did.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Personafied
Man, I dont understand tennis. I look at the scores and I have no clue whats going on. Like there are brackets with a score in it. Still trying to figure out how Wawa won but I'm glad he did.

Personafied - Very simple. You must win a set by two games or win the set in a TB which would happen when both players have won 6 games in the set. In the TB the first player to 7 pts wins but they have to win the TB by at least 2 pts so if it's tied at 6 it's the first one to get a 2 pt edge. So in Wawrinka's case he won his match 7-6 (8-6 in TB), 6-7 (Lost 2nd set tb 7-4) and he won the 3rd set 7-6 (7-2 in the TB) When you see a score like 7-6 (2) it means the player won the TB by a score of 7-2. Possible scorelines for any given match are as followed: 6-0, 6-1, 6-2, 6-3, 6-4, 7-5, 7-6. Only time you'll see a different scoreline that that would be in a major or in doubles.

[vazman05]

corey-any lean or opinion on tonights challenger between Bjorn Phau and Julien Jeanpierre or Oliver Marach and Go Spadea?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-any lean or opinion on tonights challenger between Bjorn Phau and Julien Jeanpierre or Oliver Marach and Go Spadea?

Not really to be honest. Challengers have been killing me so far this week.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-any lean or opinion on tonights challenger between Bjorn Phau and Julien Jeanpierre or Oliver Marach and Go Spadea?

save your money for Djokovic tomorrow morning

[WayneWonder]

WTD: 1-1 +3.54 units

Another day, another dog....

Bracciali +189 Nieminen 5 units

DB seems to be getting a pretty nice price here as Jarko is coming off an injury to his left foot which forced him to retire last week in St. Petersburg. This is also the first meeting between the two H2H. Jarko has not fared well historically at Paris compiling a 1-3 record.

I think some of this price may be due to the fact that DB is playing his third match in four days. He looked pretty sharp in his straight set victory over Gilles Simon, a player who gave him lots of trouble in New York this year. (I know firsthand, I watched my money go down the drain that Monday). DB was off today and fatigue should not be a huge factor for him. It'll be interesting to see how Jarko's foot holds up in what should be a long match, due to DB's big serve ability.

[coreyschucky]

Wednesday

Paris

50* Novak Djokovic (-275) Over Paul-Henri Mathieu - 6:00 AM
20* James Blake (-260) Over Arnaud Clement - 7:15 AM
10* Tomas Berdych (-270) Over Olivier Rohus - 5:00 AM
5* Tommy Haas (-210) Over Michael Llodra - 6:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

Already on Djokovic, hope he comes through for ya.



:gulp:

Am gonna toss one at Gonzo also.Now watch tomorrow be some sort of Bastille Day celebration for the two Frenchmen.

[recovering77]

I dunno why I just did that, but I just bet my entire account on Djokovic. If he loses I'm dead.

Could you give me some reasoning behind this so I can feel better? thanks.

no way! I'm older than Djokovic lol. that's crazy.


P.S. Loving all of the plays Chucky. I picked the exact same myself. Dunno if that is a good or bad thing though.....

[-Marines-]

50* Novak Djokovic (-275) Over Paul-Henri Mathieu - 6:00 AM

I'm on it. Lets get this one

I threw the others in a small parlay, thanks for the picks keep up the comeback:thumbs:

[paco-g]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Wednesday

Paris

50* Novak Djokovic (-275) Over Paul-Henri Mathieu - 6:00 AM
20* James Blake (-260) Over Arnaud Clement - 7:15 AM
10* Tomas Berdych (-270) Over Olivier Rohus - 5:00 AM
5* Tommy Haas (-210) Over Michael Llodra - 6:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!


on board as well... let's go Djokovic !!!

[Psylence]

Heh recovering you gotta stop doing that so often, sooner or later the dogs gonna eat you up... anyway i'm on Djokovic like the rest of us lets hope he gets up

[BeyondTheGame]

Berdych looking good here in the 2nd set looks like we are going to a 3rd and Rochus hasnt looked good all game to be honest.

[coreyschucky]

I know it's late for this as the match was closed by the books already but here was my reasoning behind the line:

Djokovic - Season 40W - 17L ------Indoors 16W - 5L
Mathieu - Season 22W - 27L ------Indoors 3W - 5L

H2H - Djokovic won 6-1, 6-3 on Hardcourts in Miami

Mathieu is a bigtime headcase. He's got alot of talent but generally he folds in his matches. Overall PHM has not had a good season while the very talented Djokovic is having a breakout season as in the verge of being a top 10 player next season. Talent wise Djokovic is much better and is better form here.

[coreyschucky]

Berdych won 6-7, 6-4, 6-2!!!!
Haas won 7-6, 7-6!!!!
Lu won (Don't remember the score)!!!!
Bloomfield lost 6-7, 6-7 (What a bad loss)

Paris: 10-1 (-37 units) with 2 still pending :puke: Making my comeback:thumbs:
Challenger Series: 6-4 (-51.95 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Sharukh10]

Murray line is down to -229, would you touch this match Corey.

Thanks.

[recovering77]

down a break already? no way.

[BeyondTheGame]

Thats a Break Back - Djokovic is looking really good to be honest.

[Psylence]

Djokovic breaks back

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Sharukh10
Murray line is down to -229, would you touch this match Corey.

Thanks.

I saw that. Not sure yet. Murray is such a tough player to read. He can be brilliant at time and a fucking baby and give away a match. Chela won't lose easily so I don't really know.

[Psylence]

heh u beat me ^ , im from syd

[recovering77]

Theres a lot of people on this forum who have Murray on their DNP list.

[Horatio]

and as for Murray, yeah he is talented, and he should win, but he is such a jerk and a freaking roller coaster ride, so buckle up if you are on him, it could be an interesting ride.Or it could be a cakewalk for him.
I have a feeling thiis Mathieu match is gonna make me queasy along the way....:gulp:

[recovering77]

Originally posted by Horatio
and as for Murray, yeah he is talented, and he should win, but he is such a jerk and a freaking roller coaster ride, so buckle up if you are on him, it could be an interesting ride.Or it could be a cakewalk for him.
I have a feeling thiis Mathieu match is gonna make me queasy along the way....:gulp:

That's how I feel about xavier Malisse.

Anyways, I'm very uneasy myself with Mathieu here., he actually is looking pretty good. I'm going to be so angry if he loses cuz I coulda gotten a better value with Berdych or Haas (although he has just blown the match and gone to a tiebreak), or Niemenan.

Do you guys ever feel weary about betting on some kid that's only 19 years old?

[Horatio]

Yeah the youth is a problem, but I have gotten a little used to it betting on the NBA (LOL) and the NCAA bball. I am just glad I am not a head coach and need some assclown 18 year old's signature on a recruting document.:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Sometimes the younger the better. In certain cases yes I would be wary of betting on a 19 yr old but not when a player has tons of talent. You'll get hurt from time to time but for the most part if they are talented enough and have a decent head they'll win. In the WTA the best value is generally on the 16 - 19 yr olds who are dogs as sometimes they have tons of talent but just aren't given enough credit due to there age. Sports are becoming more and more of a young mans game.

[WayneWonder]

WTD: 1-2 -1.46 units

Adding a few more for today...Each 5 units


T. Robredo +140 over Grosjean

K. Vliegen +245 over Ancic

J. I. Chela +205 over Murray

[BeyondTheGame]

When its Djokovic - I dont feel uneasy or weary - watching this game on Tely - I would say Djokovic looks like the better of the two espically that last point on his serve brillant.

On the other hand you have Andy Murray - whose pretty young - Who i try to stay away from at all times. Now thats the problem of youth.

[paco-g]

Good work Haas. Looks like Djokovic-Mathieu is going the distance...

By the way whats up from across the Tasman Sea in Auckland

[recovering77]

Stat I hate about this match.

Djokovic

0/15 1st return points won

I wonder how Djokovic even got a break with that kinda stat. PH must be beating himself.

I've noticed that Mathieu has been getting more return points than Djokovic. If you can't win any points other than your serve, ur not gonna win a tiebreak.

[Horatio]

serve can be lethal. This is gonna be a rocky ride I am afraid, good thing I can't hang until the end of it.:beer2:

[vazman05]

PHM wins the first set :bang:

[recovering77]

fucking Djokovic couldn't finish him off with 3 set points. Amazing, he'll probably just throw in the towel now, he's probably too tired to play 3 sets.

[coreyschucky]

Fucking Novak blew 6 SP's.

[recovering77]

knowing my luck this will be the only favorite that loses today. fuck!

[BeyondTheGame]

Oh well lost the first set - but I think the poor start by Djokovic is to blame for it going into the Tiebreaker. He was unlucky he played a terrific Shot to the side then didnt finish him off at the net.

Mmm.. Djokovic just not taking his chances - Needs to do a better job on the forehand.

[Horatio]

Djokovic may be in real trouble.But I don't see him throwing in the towel,,not with his performances of late. GL guys, I gotta hit an appt....:beer2: :beer2:

[vazman05]

wtf is going on...phm wins the first game in set 2....:bang:

[coreyschucky]

Naturally Djokovic got broken to start the 2nd set. If Djokovic loses I'm finished for the season. Djokovic was winning TB's at a 90% clip this season I believe. Classic case of player wasting oppurtunities and then giving up. I can't believe this shit.

[vazman05]

2-0 now....wtf:puke:

[recovering77]

damn, u know I usually only bet like 30-40 dolllars a match as of late, but I bet 300 on this match, and it's all I got left.

I can't fucking believe this is happening. He has the worst first serve return percentage I have ever seen.

1/24 4% is not going to win u a match.

That is why it was crucial that he won that tiebreak. I cannnnot believe this!

[recovering77]

its a classic case of a 19 year old not having good conditioning, not being disciplined, and who knows, maybe he got paid with this tennis fixing scandal thing going on.

[recovering77]

I got baited into this. 6-3, 6-1 is a convincing match that he won against Mathieu last time. What surface was that on?

[recovering77]

GO NOVAK WITH THE BREEAK!

[Sharukh10]

Same surface, mathieu looked focused in his first match with seppi, the kid just broke back however and I still think he has a shot. He is definately the mentally tougher of the 2 in my opinion.

[recovering77]

ohhh god tihs is gonna be a nail biter. We're at deuce.

[recovering77]

this kid man, about to give his break right back. My hair is turning grayer every day.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Sharukh10
Same surface, mathieu looked focused in his first match with seppi, the kid just broke back however and I still think he has a shot. He is definately the mentally tougher of the 2 in my opinion.

Novak is siginificantly stronger then PHM mentally. PHM is one of the biggest chokers on tour. Let's hope Novak holds it together.

[vazman05]

novak making a comeback...up 3-2

[recovering77]

Originally posted by vazman05
novak making a comeback...up 3-2

it doesnt mean anything if ur up 3-2 unless ur serving as well, and Novak is not. He is blowing 2 break points as we speak.

[vazman05]

but he could of easily came out and tanked the 2 set and let PHM take it 6-0....and he hasnt....so maybe, just maybe, he has a miracle left in him

[recovering77]

break point. here it comes.

[vazman05]

fuckin novak....

[recovering77]

mathieu break. it's over. time for my retirement from tennis.

[vazman05]

novak fuckin blew today...terrible....what a joke

[recovering77]

chance at break and u blew it novak, u fucking blew it. grow some fucking balls and finally do something with ur life.

[BeyondTheGame]

Finally the break!

[recovering77]

wow, he finally pulled it off.

it seems like every other game novak has a chance to break the guy, but he can't until he's actually down a break and needs it to save the match. play with a goddamn sense of urgency dude.

[recovering77]

god I hate it when my server goes down 0-15, then 0-30. it's one of the worst feelings you can have watching tennis.

We're in not even done in the second set yet and it's already been more than 2 hours. Wonder whos been playing more tennis as of late. Mathieu, let fatigue set in!

[-Marines-]

lets go Djokovik!!

aint overr till its over. :yeah:

[BeyondTheGame]

He did it again up 5-4 - This is a must watch game, some of the best back court play you would see for a long time.

He is playing agressive the only thing I'm worried about is Dojo (Thats his new nickname for me) 2nd Serve is weak.

[recovering77]

they both have weak second serves, but Mathieu's is actually better for the first serve %. 78 to 73. I hope Novak can show some heart and at least take this second set. If I were to lose in 2 sets, it would make me even more angry.

[recovering77]

I'd really rather not see a tiebreak if possible. If Novak can break him then he'll take some momentum into the 3rd set.

[recovering77]

Novak is a choke artist. he can't close out a break without 4 or 5 tries. Hold serve here and we'll see what happens, just whatever u do, DONT GET BROKEN!

[BeyondTheGame]

Dojo is looking the better of the two IMHO - Mathieu only got the last game due to a challange call and it was an Ace.

Dojo is looking good on his serve game here - the only thing that irratates me about European Tennis players is they cant bloody Volley they should send Pat Rafter out there to teach them.

[recovering77]

Rafter is old school, I don't even remember when I used to see him.

[recovering77]

oh god here we go. Tiebreak. I'm feeling queasy again.

[recovering77]

first break goes to Mathieu.

[recovering77]

okay guys im gonna go slit my wrists now. peace.

[vazman05]

what a joke, gives us all false hope then chokes it away

[BeyondTheGame]

Oh Well :(

[coreyschucky]

Sorry fellas..Just can't predict that a player will blow 6 sp's in the 1st set and 2 sp's in the 2nd. It's been a great season and with just a week and half left I'm finished as it's become very unpredictable. I hope Blake pulls his match out.

[recovering77]

U kept hyping him up Beyond. You were liek he looks the better of the two, but he was one struggling the most, letting things slip away in both sets.

[vazman05]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Sorry fellas..Just can't predict that a player will blow 6 sp's in the 1st set and 2 sp's in the 2nd.

exactly.

[vazman05]

corey-whens the new season start, and do you plan on making any plays on the masters cup

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-whens the new season start, and do you plan on making any plays on the masters cup

Probably not...I'll be around so I'll open up a thread for it and maybe make the occasional play but for the most part after losing big on Acasuso and Djokovic I feel it's best to keep it small. The new season starts January 1st with tournaments in Adelaide, Doha and Chennai.

[paco-g]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Sorry fellas..Just can't predict that a player will blow 6 sp's in the 1st set and 2 sp's in the 2nd. It's been a great season and with just a week and half left I'm finished as it's become very unpredictable. I hope Blake pulls his match out.

Agreed... tough breaks there - pretty agonizing to watch.

You made the right call on the match, as Djokovic seems to have been playing very well, and Mathieu was sketchy.

I think that when playing 5 and 10 units, playing 50 units on any favorite is tough, though. If they are -250 or -350 or above, it can easily wipe out a month's worth of profits, even if you went 33-5.

Well the season's almost over... okay time for James Blake to represent, let's go!

[BeyondTheGame]

Oh Dojo looked good - but hell I have been liking the kid since Wimbledon when he went 5 Sets with Ancic. He did look the better IMHO - But I think having the Home Crowd helped for Mathieu.

Also just some silly slips by Dojo cost him the game he went for the Drop Shots too. But its tennis and its usually just a few points that usually cost you the game and for Dojo that is the case.

[recovering77]

i deposited $50 on credit and bet it on Robredo, this will be my last post as well if he loses.

GL to everyone. I hope blake pulls through for u all.

[scourge]

recovering,

way to litter corey's thread with your play by play rantings :puke:

is that seriously necessary? you can't make your own thread?

[Horatio]

Need Gonzo to salvage a poor but not catasptrophic day in Paris....:gulp:

[Horatio]

GONZO trying to make sure this day sux for me :bang: :bang:

[Horatio]

NICE DAY FOR THE DOGS...damn..c'est la vie!!!:bang:

[Horatio]

I read this...I'm having a hard time imagining it...WTF?????

"France's Paul-Henri Mathieu won a marathon second round clash against Novak Djokovic leaving the beaten Serbian teenager to regret his decision to enter the court sporting a Zorro-style face mask.

Mathieu clinched a third round match against either compatriot Sebastien Grosjean or Spanish sixth seed Tommy Robredo with his 7-6 (13/11), 7-6 (7/4) win.

Nineteen-year-old Djokovic, the 12th seed, had come into the tournament enjoying the best season of his career with two titles in 2006 having pushed his ranking up to 16 in the world.

With his confidence on a high, he strolled on to centre court wearing the black Zorro mask, associated with the fictional Mexican hero, and he had plenty of opportunities to back up that self-belief."

JEEZ!!!!! All I can it do is laugh at the absurdity of it!!!

[paco-g]

Originally posted by Horatio
I read this...I'm having a hard time imagining it...WTF?????

"France's Paul-Henri Mathieu won a marathon second round clash against Novak Djokovic leaving the beaten Serbian teenager to regret his decision to enter the court sporting a Zorro-style face mask.

Mathieu clinched a third round match against either compatriot Sebastien Grosjean or Spanish sixth seed Tommy Robredo with his 7-6 (13/11), 7-6 (7/4) win.

Nineteen-year-old Djokovic, the 12th seed, had come into the tournament enjoying the best season of his career with two titles in 2006 having pushed his ranking up to 16 in the world.

With his confidence on a high, he strolled on to centre court wearing the black Zorro mask, associated with the fictional Mexican hero, and he had plenty of opportunities to back up that self-belief."

JEEZ!!!!! All I can it do is laugh at the absurdity of it!!!

That is pretty funny. You gotta admire his spirit if not his play vs. Mathieu.

Corey, you've been doing a great job on the picks. I don't think you should stop based on two unlikely losses... your record outside of those has been great. Also, your analysis on the matches has been superb.

Cool yall.

[coreyschucky]

Paco-g - It's not the two losses it's just the end of the season and looking at the results the first three days of Paris I see no reason to continue. Players are just too unpredictable right now. However here's my take on tomorrow's matches:

Davydenko vs Tursunov - Nikolay should win but motivation factor is a question. Nikolay has already secured his spot in the TMC so it'll depend on whether he wants to rest up for Shanghai or not. I highly doubt this will happen and based on Davydenko's solid play i think he'll beat Dmitry. Dmitry has had a good year but he seems ready for his vacation.

Berdych vs. Ginepri - Got to go with Robby in this one as he would be a nice value play. I'm a big fan of both these players but Tomas showed he's not at the top of his game with his struggles versus Oliver today. Just think Robby has been playing solid tennis and should be a good dog play.

Blake vs. Haas - Important match for both but realistically Blake needs this win alot more. Blake is on the verge of qualifying for the TMC next week and with Fena's loss today he's one step closer. There are a few scenarios where he can still miss out but a win here would get him in. Haas has a slim chance and must win the tournament and have a few other things happen to get in. Blake should win this as the surface suits him better.

Ancic vs. Benneteau - Benneteau should not have gotten this far and was very fortunate to get to this round due to his opponents mistakes. Ancic has a slim shot at the TMC but he must continue winning to keep his dream alive. Gotta think the motivation factor of the TMC is on Ancic's side as last weeks win in St. Petersburg has shown he's on top of his game right now.

Gabashvili vs. Nieminen - Teimuraz is the luckiest man in the world. As a Lucky Loser he was able to get in due to Roger's withdrawal and was handed a 1st round bye. He was lucky enough to run into a tired ToJo and managed to beat him in 3 sets. A job well done. I've always liked Jarkko as he is very consistent throughout the season. Jarkko should win but i probably wouldn't touch it.

Mathieu vs. Robredo - This might be the ugliest match of the day. Somehow Robredo got one step closer to TMC next week. he was down 3-6, 2-5 and grosjean serving for the match when he pulled off a miraculous comeback. he actually came really close to blowing it when he was up 5-2 in the 3rd and got broken until he was finally able to break grosjean for the match. As i personally know Mathieu absolutely killed me today. He's shown a side of himself that is rarely seen for PHM fans. This guy has talent no doubt but his head is all fucked up and he finds ways to blow matches. Djokovic should have finished him off but he didn't. Honestly if you bet this match take out the tums, pepto or whatever antacid you use and expect a crazy match.

Murray vs. Hrbaty - I think the value lies in the dominator here. Hrbaty is a very solid indoor player and Murray has a tendency to underachieve in matches. I'd go with Hrbaty for pure value.

Gasquet vs. Safin - Just a tough match and I would leave this one alone. This match has 3 tough sets written all over it. I'd love to watch it and I wouldn't bet it.


If I was betting tennis on Thursday I'd only place wagers on Davydenko and Blake.

Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

Excellent stuff. Take it easy...:thumbs:

[Psylence]

Thanks for the tips chuck

[Horatio]

is going down like the serious choke artist he has always been.Never is a long time, but I think he may never have the balls to win a must win match. Roddick needed Connors to give him some drive, but this guy really needs Conners for mental toughness as well. Of course it is not over yet, given Haas' own flightiness, but still...:gulp:

YUP he :flush: 4, 2...pathetic. I thinki the surest bet in sports, aside from Federer and maybe Bernardini, is that James Blake will choke a crucial match.!!

[Psylence]

Thoughts on todays games? Im liking Davydenko over Ancic, has been in good form

[WayneWonder]

Berdych is unbeaten all-time (8-0) at Paris. He is 10-0 in his L10 on carpet. Still -361 is not a great price for a QF match. Also leaning toward Ancic. He is really playing well right now.

[recovering77]

at first glance I thought Davydenko was a lock against Ancic, but apparently Ancic has won the last 2 meetings.

2-2 split all time.

http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=Davydenko%2C+Nikolay&player2=Ancic%2C+Mario&playernum2=A385

Ancic is 2-0 in challengers and futures? I dunno really what that means.

Davydenko's serve is just amazing though. He can give Federer a run for his money.

hmmmm..... still taking Davydenko, but going smaller here.

[recovering77]

thats a high price to pay for Berdych. Record is good, but dunno if its worth it.

[Horatio]

Just put me outta my misery here in this tournament.I just bet on Safin and Nieminen. so fade away. I bet on Nieminen simply because Robredo's head is already in Shanghai, I suspect. Safin, well, he lures me in by his talent all the time and then goes Dostoevsky on me. But as the write up says "Safin has a sterling career record of 23-2 here and is only the second player to win this tournament three times: in 2004 over Stepanek, in 2002 over Hewitt and in 2000 over Philippoussis. Boris Becker won in 1986, 1989 and 1992." I generally do not care for trends but what the hell.

Berdych should win but as others have said, pricey.GL:gulp:

[WayneWonder]

This bet is a bit unorthodox but here it is anyway...

Will T. Haas win in 2-1 sets ?

51) Yes +435

Risking 50.00 to Win 217.50 USD

Will M. Safin win in 2-1 sets ?

55) Yes +291

Risking 50.00 to Win 145.50 USD

My thinking behind this is I will have a winner no matter what if the match goes three sets. Safin wins = 95.50 profit, Haas wins = 167.50 profit. These two have played three previous times with each match going the distance, twice five-setters. Haas was in great form yesterday against Blake and Safin recieved the afternoon off. Here's hoping they play three!

***Disclaimer*** This strategy can (and has) blown up in your face. You could be down ten units if there is not three sets played. You find yourself rooting for one guy in the first, another in the second, and counting money in the third. I do not recommend this type of play very often, but the numbers all lined up for me.

FWIW, I also played Ancic last night at Pinnacle. I got him at +154, line is now down to +140.

[Horatio]

I like the bet on the Haas-Safin match. I am not sure that the fact that they are both head cases should influence it one way or the other;I could see one folding up like a cheap tent if losing the first set in a TB. However, since both are in good form, all things being equal, the match SHOULD go three sets. GL! :gulp:

PS Recovering, the fact that Ancic won when they were both laboring in the Challengers and futures circuit just means he handled him when they were up and coming youths. Davydenko has since made more improvement (as is obvious in his ranking) but as you know Ancic is finally becoming the player people always expected him to be. He has a superb serve as well.

Davydenko's main strength is his incredible quickness and his footwork. The latter in particular is truly noteworthy. I don't know if you play the game at all, but if so, a tape of one of his matches when he is on form is soemthing to watch in terms of footwork and preparation. :thumbs:

[Sharukh10]

I like safin against haas, maybe his loss at the US open will provide some extra motivation. Either way, I think Safin is at his best form of the year.

Also i like Ancic to win in 2 sets at +395. My feeling here is that ancic has played alot of tennis and will try to finish it off in 2 sets, and if it goes three davydenko will have a greater advantage - ancic has alot of heart tho. Also Ancic has a big enough serve to consistently hold and maybe pull out of a few tight sets. I don't fancy davys return against an serve and volley - attacking player like ancic.

[recovering77]

fuck I knew one of the close to even money favs would lose. Robredo winning spelled my doom on davydenko. The way the match is going, we're gonna have a super mario win 7-6 7-6

Ancic is like 6 5", tall as motherfucker.

[Sharukh10]

Someone better tell ancic he isn't going to beat davydenko from the baseline.

Too bad but small investmenti see this 2nd set going quick.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Sharukh10
Someone better tell ancic he isn't going to beat davydenko from the baseline.

Too bad but small investmenti see this 2nd set going quick.

Davydenko is honestly one of the most consistent players on tour and with the exception of Nadal and Federer he can consistenly beat anyone on tour. Ancic fell into the pressure of having to win to make the TMC.

[Horatio]

amazing how many of these talented players are mentally weak as water. Mental toughness in all sports is soooo important, and yet soooo rare.There are a thousand choke artists for every one clutch player, or so it seems, in all sports.

[Horatio]

in the SAFIN match..nice call Wayne!:thumbs:

Helped defray a unit loss on Marat...a +435 dog bet is sweeeet!!!

[vazman05]

corey...any opininions on saturdays matches....esp. the davydenko one...

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey...any opininions on saturdays matches....esp. the davydenko one...

Davydenko should wipe the floor with Robredo. Robredo is now qualified for the TMC so I really don't expect him to fight too hard now.

As for Mirnyi - Haas, I like Mirnyi but the scary this there is Haas has to win the tournament to take the last TMC spot so he has alot of motivation. I would just root for Mirnyi to take Haas out so Blake can finally secure the last spot.


Good Luck!!!!

[WayneWonder]

Hrbaty @ Haas

Both players enter this match in great form. As Corey said, a win today for Haas earns him a spot in Shanghai. He really helped his cause with a straight sets victory over James Blake earlier this week.

Both players come into this match very familiar with one another. They have met thirteen previous times with Haas leading the series 8-5. Their most recent meeting came in Madrid in October with Haas prevailing in two sets.

Hrbaty was quite impressive in snapping Tomas Berdych's ten match unbeaten streak at Paris TMS yesterday. He won 31/36 (86%) of 1st serve points, including 25/27 in the two sets he won.

Hrbaty has looked good all week long, serving up a 2nd set bagel to Andy Murray and handling the BIG serve of Igor Andreev with ease. Despite the extra motivation for Haas, I think the Dominator is going to prevail. Should be a tough match, probably three sets.

Going with....

Will D. Hrbaty win in 2-1 sets ?

71) Yes +439

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I believe Davydenko should and will win the final on sunday. No value on his line and with Davydenko sporting a minor injury it's not worth the risk. If you want a shot on a dog line I'd take Davydenko to win 3-1 in sets as Hrbaty can certainly take Davydenko to a TB in one and take it.