ATP - Madrid (10/16 - 10/22)

[coreyschucky]

Mutua Madrilena Masters Madrid - Madrid, Spain - Indoors, Carpet

http://tennis-masters-madrid.com//eng/index.htm


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Madrid

10* Agustin Calleri (-160) Over Florent Serra - 7:45 AM
10* Sebastian Grosjean (-413) Over Jonas Bjorkman - 9:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Still debating a few plays but I'm still not sure yet. Best of luck to everyone this week.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Madrid

10* Xavier Malisse (-120) Over Mardy Fish - 5:00 AM
10* Julien Benneteau (-178) Over Alejandro Falla - 6:15 AM
10* Tim Henman (-130) Over Fernando Verdasco - 2:00 PM
5* Nicolas Massu (-127) Over Gaston Gaudio - 7:45 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

The malisse line was just taken off 5 dimes, but everything else is still up. I wonder what's going on with it.....

[recovering77]

okay I talked to the live chat, they hadda take it down while it was "updating." It comes back at -135. nice early value you got on that -120.

[recovering77]

Mardy Fish is the play here. Malisse is not getting any points when he's not serving. Fish's games are so fast that I almost miss them when I turn my head.

[recovering77]

damnit, it was looking so good in the second set, deuce with the advantage, then alllllll downhill. Malisse's second serve sucks. All I see is 0-15 if he doesn't get the first serve out. I guess I'm taking Massu, and if he loses I'm in big trouble.

[recovering77]

ouch. he was up 3-0, then I wake up and he's down 5-4 wtf happened?

[recovering77]

god these matches are giving me a heart attack. My guys get break points, thne give them right back wtf?

[recovering77]

MASSU WINS CUZ THE OTHER DUDE RETIRED!

nice play chucky.

[coreyschucky]

Malisse lost 7-5, 3-6, 5-7
Benneteau won 6-2, 6-1!!!!
Massu won 4-6, 6-3 (Gaudio retired)!!!!
Calleri won 7-6, 6-3!!!!
Grosjean won 6-4, 7-5!!!!

Madrid: 4-1 (+23 units) with 1 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

Calleri is doing okay, but he's very inconsistent. He's almost gotten broken like 3 games in a row.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
Calleri is doing okay, but he's very inconsistent. He's almost gotten broken like 3 games in a row.

I think he'll be alright. let's hope he pulls the TB out and he'll take the match.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Bogota, Colombia

10* Carlos Berlocq (-185) Over Federico Gil - 11:30 AM
10* Horacio Zeballos (-150) Over Pablo Gonzalez - 12:45 PM

Challenger Series: Calabasas, California

10* Rik De Voest (-400) Over Mashika Washington - 3:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

man, I still can't believe that Malisse lost. He was looking so good in the first set, about to break him, and then he just loses. So disappointed. Shoulda known there was a reason why 5 dimes took that lines down 5 mins after I put 580 on it.

Wish I had my match settled earlier so I could take Grosjean, but that match looks shady anyways. I see a +50 turnaround on Grosjeans line, but then slowly see it go back up awaiting the start time.

Got work later so I guess that will be the end of tennis for me. Let's see if we can get this last one with Calleri.

[coreyschucky]

The reason for the line swing on Grosjean is his injured shoulder. He had asked the tourney director to move his match to Tuesday but there was some sort of mixup and his match was scheduled for today. I just think Grosjean is still good enough to beat Bjorkman and if he was too hurt he would have withdrawn from the tourney.

[recovering77]

Yay, Calleri wins, so both those wins break me even from that Malisse loss almost. Loss of 80 bucks. thanks again for the winners, gonna figure out what to pick for MNF tonight.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
holding this thought cuz Calleri isn't closing this out.

Calleri finished it out.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

5* Lars Burgsmuller (-600) Over Rasmus Norby - 1:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Outlaw Bandit]

Corey,

You have Henman playing Lopez, actually Henman is playing Verdasco.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Outlaw Bandit
Corey,

You have Henman playing Lopez, actually Henman is playing Verdasco.

Thanks I always type those two wrong. Thanks.

[coreyschucky]

Burgsmuller won 6-3, 6-2!!!!

Madrid: 4-1 (+23 units) with 1 still pending
Challenger Series: 1-0 (+5 units) with 3 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Add one small one for the last of the day.

Monday

Madrid

3* Robby Ginepri (+117) Over Feliciano Lopez - 3:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Henman won 7-5, 6-3!!!!
Ginepri won 6-1, 3-6, 6-3!!!!
Berlocq lost 6-4, 5-7, 5-7
Zeballos won 6-4, 6-7, 6-1!!!!
De Voest lost 5-7, 3-6 (Wow I'm shocked here)

Madrid: 6-1 (+36.51 units)
Challenger Series: 2-2 (-43.5 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

I placed a small one on Ginepri as well, but see he is in the third set...cmon...:bang:

[Horatio]

cmon finish the guy off ...:gulp:

[Horatio]

:gulp: :yeah: :gulp: :prtytme: :prtytme:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
:gulp: :yeah: :gulp: :prtytme: :prtytme:

Robby shuts up the spanish crowd as they were just awful during this match.

[coreyschucky]

Tuesday

Madrid

10* Dominik Hrbaty (-167) Over Gael Monfils - 5:00 AM
10* Tommy Robredo (-170) Over Juan Ignacio Chela - 6:15 AM
10* Andy Roddick (-585) Over Sebastian Grosjean - 7:00 AM
10* Dmitry Tursunov (-215) Over Kristof Vliegen - 7:45 AM
10* Joachim Johansson (-210) Over Juan Martin Del Potro - 11:00 AM
5* Robin Soderling (-143) Over Olivier Rochus - 5:00 AM

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

10* Alex Bogdanovic (-280) Over Marc Lopez - 7:00 AM
10* Andreas Vinciguerra (-155) Over Yen-Hsun Lu - 8:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[vazman05]

corey-any leans or opinions on soderling and or tursonov tmrw???

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-any leans or opinions on soderling and or tursonov tmrw???

Both are plays of mine already just look above. I like Soderling somewhat and hesistant to go higher on him due to my respect of Olivier Rochus. As for Tursy he's one of my favorite players and although I do like Vliegen as well I think Tursy has a good matchup for himself.

[vazman05]

oh wow...feel like a dumb ass for asking that LOLOLOL...thanks man!!!

[coreyschucky]

vaz - lol

Tuesday

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

10* Dick Norman (-900) Over Jacob Melskens - 11:00 AM
5* Kristian Pless (-135) Over Wayne Arthurs - 1:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[BeyondTheGame]

Thank god Monfils retired - looked like Hrbaty was going to lose.

[green21]

I was on Hrbaty as well. I finally got a retirement that went in my direction for once. I lost my wager at 5Dimes yesterday when Gaudio retired at 1 set apiece with Massu. So I kind of got some revenge back, so to say with Hrbaty winning by retirement. I hope Tursunov can get past Vliegen today. Let's go Dmitry!

[vazman05]

hey corey-any updates on the tursonov or robredo scores...i cant find the scores???:mad:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
hey corey-any updates on the tursonov or robredo scores...i cant find the scores???:mad:

Chela up 4-3 and has a break
Tursunov up 2-1 on serve

http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Page_3363.html

When you go to the site click on the link for the scoreboard

[coreyschucky]

Hrbaty won 3-6, 2-2 (Monfils retired)!!!!
Soderling won 6-3, 6-4!!!!
Tursunov lost 3-6, 1-6
Bogdanovic won 6-3, 6-1!!!!
Robredo won 7-6, 7-6!!!!
Johansson won 6-4, 6-4!!!!
Roddick won 6-4, 7-6!!!!
Vinciguerra lost 7-5, 5-7, 2-6
Norman won 6-1, 4-6, 6-2!!!!
Pless won 6-7, 7-6, 7-6!!!!

Madrid: 11-2 (+60.01 units)
Challenger Series: 5-3 (-34 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[vazman05]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Hrbaty won 3-6, 2-2 (Monfils retired)!!!!
Soderling won 6-3, 6-4!!!!

Madrid: 8-1 (+51.51 units) with 4 still pending



Good Luck to All!!!! :cheers: :jig: :bow: :clap: :clap: :bbang: :fire:

[vazman05]

looks like tursonov retired maybe??? or live scoring is having issues

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
looks like tursonov retired maybe??? or live scoring is having issues

most likely scoring issues. Tursunov isn't the type to retire. He's a fighter. As i right this first set goes to Robredo:yeah:

[naroz]

the robredo game is live on cable here in australia ... they havent said anything about the tursonov game yet!?

[naroz]

sorry turnosov backers
it just updated

6-3 4-0 to Vliegen

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by naroz
sorry turnosov backers
it just updated

6-3 4-0 to Vliegen

yep bad performance from Tursunov.:flush:

[Horatio]

add another erratic Russian to the Do Not Play LIst ..sheesh...:bang:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
add another erratic Russian to the Do Not Play LIst ..sheesh...:bang:

Not so much on a blacklist but I think for the time being yes cause after two consecutive losses he's now shown he's played way too many tournaments lately.

[Horatio]

He has been in a downturn of late....needs to take some time off and get ready for Australia, he should do fairly well down there...:gulp:

[Horatio]

Yeah I am and am throwing a unit at Tim Henman over Ferrer. What the hell, he has already come through once, maybe he keeps on a roll. Got the extra, despite Tursunov's flameout...hope he can quiet the home crowd.:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
Yeah I am and am throwing a unit at Tim Henman over Ferrer. What the hell, he has already come through once, maybe he keeps on a roll. Got the extra, despite Tursunov's flameout...hope he can quiet the home crowd.:gulp:

I think Ferrer will beat him.

[recovering77]

I think Ferrer will beat him too, but the old man shows he can get it done sometimes.

[Horatio]

It is a stab at it, dunno if he can get it done twice and in hostile conditions but for some reason...what the hey...:gulp:

[Horatio]

is money:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Tuesday

Challenger Series: Calabasas, California

10* Tyler Cleveland (-180) Over David Martin - 2:15 PM
10* Danai Udomchoke (-335) Over Brian Wilson - 5:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

takes first set 6-1

[Horatio]

loses second 4-6...yikes he may be turning into South Park's Timmmmyyyyyyyyy!!!:bang: :bang:

[Horatio]

comes through 6-1 in the third:an asskicking!!!:thumbs: :prtytme: :prtytme:

[coreyschucky]

Tuesday

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

10* Mischa Zverev (-600) Over Martin Pedersen - 2:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Zverev won 6-3, 6-4!!!!
Udomchoke won 6-2, 6-3!!!!
Cleveland won 6-7, 6-4, 7-5!!!!

Madrid: 11-2 (+60.01 units)
Challenger Series: 8-3 (-4 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

am liking Ljubi(-266) over Murray, Gonzo(-256) over Srichaphan, Blake (-410) over Vliegen and Davydenko(-210) over JoJo. I am a little surprised at some of these lines; Davydenko and Ljubi have been playing lights out. Thoughts?
:gulp:

[vazman05]

mario ancic at -173....is that a good price on mario corey???i think im gonna make a play on it, but your opinion would sway me that much more

[coreyschucky]

Wednesday

Madrid

20* Nikolay Davydenko (-190) Over Joachim Johansson - 11:00 AM
10* Fernando Gonzalez (-270) Over Paradorn Srichaphan - 5:00 AM
10* Mario Ancic (-170) Over Robby Ginepri - 5:00 AM
10* Ivan Ljubicic (-280) Over Andy Murray - 7:45 AM
10* Tomas Berdych (-190) Over Agustin Calleri - 7:45 AM
10* Robin Soderling (-190) Over Juan Carlos Ferrero - 9:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[EdwardHaney]

I would say Fish +733 over Nadal (3rd time's a charm), if it weren't for the match being played in Spain...


...which actually leads me to a question for those of you who know more than I do about tennis...


Is having home soil that much of an advantage in tennis? Not talking about Davis Cup here, but just the weekly ATP events? Is that a good reason for staying off this match? What if it was played in some random place like Russia?

Seems like if the tourney is in Sweden I'll find myself leaning toward the Swedes especially in the early rounds. Even though I think this is already built into the lines sometimes I still don't like picking against the French in France, etc. It seems like (especially with some of the smaller countries) they always have an anonymous wild card or qualifier that pulls an upset.

Now I know there's the obvious answers like Agassi feeding off the energy in New York, or Mauresmo choking on the pressue of Paris. My question is more about the lower profile events. Is there a significant "home field advantage"?

[coreyschucky]

Wednesday

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

20* Michael Llodra (-350) Over Frederik Nielsen - 12:15 PM
10* Kenneth Carlsen (-400) Over Julian Reister - 11:00 AM
10* Alex Bogdanovic (-260) Over Uros Vico - 11:15 AM
5* Mathieu Montcourt (-160) Over Jan Minar - 9:45 AM

Challenger Series: Calabasas, California

10* Nathan Healey (-190) Over Mashika Washington - 1:00 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by EdwardHaney
I would say Fish +733 over Nadal (3rd time's a charm), if it weren't for the match being played in Spain...


...which actually leads me to a question for those of you who know more than I do about tennis...


Is having home soil that much of an advantage in tennis? Not talking about Davis Cup here, but just the weekly ATP events? Is that a good reason for staying off this match? What if it was played in some random place like Russia?

Seems like if the tourney is in Sweden I'll find myself leaning toward the Swedes especially in the early rounds. Even though I think this is already built into the lines sometimes I still don't like picking against the French in France, etc. It seems like (especially with some of the smaller countries) they always have an anonymous wild card or qualifier that pulls an upset.

Now I know there's the obvious answers like Agassi feeding off the energy in New York, or Mauresmo choking on the pressue of Paris. My question is more about the lower profile events. Is there a significant "home field advantage"?

Home tourney advantage really depends on the tourney and the player. Perfect example Igor Kunitsyn. Look at this guys results the last few years in tournaments that are in Russia. In almost every case he gets deep into tourney's as opposed to when he plays elsewhere he struggles to find the same form. You see it alot that home players go deep in tourney's but you also see alot go out in the first round i.e. here in Madrid.

[vazman05]

ancic:flush: :bang: :bang:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
ancic:flush: :bang: :bang:

Tiebreaks unfortunately that happens.


Added 10 more units to Davydenko at -170. I made the adjustment above.

[coreyschucky]

Ancic lost 6-7, 6-7
Gonzalez won 7-5, 6-7, 6-4!!!!
Berdych won 7-6, 6-3!!!!
Ljubicic lost 4-6, 6-3, 3-6
Soderling won 6-3, 6-2!!!!
Carlsen won 6-4, 3-6, 7-6!!!!
Bogdanovic won 7-6, 7-6!!!!
Llodra won 6-2, 6-2!!!!

Madrid: 14-4 (+45.01 units) with 1 still pending
Challenger Series: 11-3 (+36 units) with 1 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Wednesday

Madrid

20* Nikolay Davydenko (-190) Over Joachim Johansson - 11:00 AM
10* Fernando Gonzalez (-270) Over Paradorn Srichaphan - 5:00 AM
10* Mario Ancic (-170) Over Robby Ginepri - 5:00 AM
10* Ivan Ljubicic (-280) Over Andy Murray - 7:45 AM
10* Tomas Berdych (-190) Over Agustin Calleri - 7:45 AM
10* Robin Soderling (-190) Over Juan Carlos Ferrero - 9:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!


Like those same exact ones chucky. Good deal. This is a very hard day to pick though cuz all these guys have made me money over the past few weeks. Watch out for Joachim Johansson over Davydenko.


I like Berdych the most though. I took Calleri yesterday, but noticed that he was very inconsistent. He almost got broken several times.

People are picking dogs pretty heavy today. All the bets I put in at midnight the lines went down for.

[Horatio]

Is Blake gonna lure me in, then have me wishing I never heard of the guy? It's early, but he looks like he may be tiring of recent success. Vliegen is tough, but...Blake oughtta handle him here. looks like he is the one getting handled.:bang:

[vazman05]

yea...blake....:bang: :bang: up 3 games to 1 in the 3rd set and he lets vliegan come back to even it out:puke:

[vazman05]

blake down now...4 games to 3 in the 3rd....:bang:

[vazman05]

blake up 6 - 5....hopefully he finishes strong

[vazman05]

blake had a chance to finish it off and he loses the game...6-6

[vazman05]

blake loses....what a joke....blake and ancic both go down in tie breaks:bang: :bang:

[coreyschucky]

I would never ever criticize a play but take a look at past results so you'll see in the future to avoid matches like this. Blake has played in alot of tournaments lately and has gone deep in all of them so he was sure to be exhausted and on top of that Blake has never won in Madrid in his career. The price was not worth the play IMO. Saying all that Blake had the match for the taking and blew it. I'm sure you'll guys will bounce back. Let's get the rest of the plays today.

P.S. I've fallen into the trap plenty of times and I'm still learning to avoid them. ie Dmitry Tursunov this week:thumbs:

[vazman05]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
I would never ever criticize a play but take a look at past results so you'll see in the future to avoid matches like this. Blake has played in alot of tournaments lately and has gone deep in all of them so he was sure to be exhausted and on top of that Blake has never won in Madrid in his career. The price was not worth the play IMO. Saying all that Blake had the match for the taking and blew it. I'm sure you'll guys will bounce back. Let's get the rest of the plays today.

true, kind of like tursonov, im sure the large amounts of tennis that these men play at such a high level take a toll on there bodies, both physically and mentally...good call...hopefully davydenko cashes later today!!

[vazman05]

lol beat me to it....about tursonov...like you said, just gotta be aware of these type of things

[Horatio]

play simply because Blake is a well known choke artist. I doubt his physical shape had anything to do with his loss today:his biggest enemy is his head ( or his guts) not his physical conditioning.I usually avoid him for that reason, but cashing on him last week made me think he would go further than normal here. But, no, still the same old choker.Live and burn.:bang:

PS Happily, Gonzo comes through:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
play simply because Blake is a well known choke artist. I doubt his physical shape had anything to do with his loss today:his biggest enemy is his head ( or his guts) not his physical conditioning.I usually avoid him for that reason, but cashing on him last week made me think he would go further than normal here. But, no, still the same old choker.Live and burn.:bang:

PS Happily, Gonzo comes through:gulp:

I think you're right cause Blake is one of the fittest players on tour but I think a combination of alot of tournies, traveling all over, playing a tough opponent and his head had all to do with the loss. Good Luck Horatio!!!!:thumbs:

[vazman05]

andy murray...i cant stand this goof...one week he is terrible....then he comes back this week and is winning the first set against ljubicic....how can you get a read on him...LOL...as im typing, berdych win in straight sets:yeah:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
andy murray...i cant stand this goof...one week he is terrible....then he comes back this week and is winning the first set against ljubicic....how can you get a read on him...LOL...as im typing, berdych win in straight sets:yeah:

He is a very tough guy to figure out. Ljubicic hasn't been making things easy either. Ljubo has alot on the line here and he needs to win this in 3.

[vazman05]

lubo coming back strong....hopefully he keeps it up through the rest of the match...

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
lubo coming back strong....hopefully he keeps it up through the rest of the match...

Typical Ljubo

[vazman05]

corey-whats up in the murray/lubo match...my livescore has been frozen for about 10-15 minutes...maybe murray retired....lol

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by vazman05
corey-whats up in the murray/lubo match...my livescore has been frozen for about 10-15 minutes...maybe murray retired....lol

Ljubo has 1bp/sp at 4-6, 5-2 2nd set

[recovering77]

I'm trying to hit it in the middle. I dunno why.

I've got Ljubi at -285

but I got murray at +3.5 games, if he can pick up a third game in the second set, and lose 6-4 or better in the 3rd, I'll middle this one.

lol, I am actually getting good at picking tennis. So sad, I usually just bet on tennis cuz theres nothing to bet on, and the only people I used to know is like Federer and shit. Now I know about guys like Thomas Berdych and Robin Soderling,

[coreyschucky]

Ljubo takes the 2nd set 6-3

[vazman05]

need lubo here in the 3rd...make many cappers here in the tennis forum happy....lets go lubo:thumbs: :thumbs:

[coreyschucky]

Wednesday

Challenger Series: Bogota, Colombia

10* Thiago Alves (-210) Over Santiago Gonzalez - 12:15 PM
10* Guillermo Canas (-350) Over Jeremy Chardy - 1:45 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[flwareagle]

Corey,

Any insight to the Bagdad/Safin match? I thought it was interesting the #9 ranked is a dog in the match.

[vazman05]

lubo...come on man....seems to be slowing down....jeeeesh i cant stand andy murray....:bang:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by flwareagle
Corey,

Any insight to the Bagdad/Safin match? I thought it was interesting the #9 ranked is a dog in the match.

Cause Baggy is in horrible form heading into the match. Might be worth a play though cause Safin had a horrible match yesterday despite winning and he might run into some physical problems today. For me this is a no bet match either way.

[recovering77]

wow, that was close 2-1, ljubicic serving Advantage Murray. He saved the match right there.

[Horatio]

always a pain in the ass...

[flwareagle]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Cause Baggy is in horrible form heading into the match. Might be worth a play though cause Safin had a horrible match yesterday despite winning and he might run into some physical problems today. For me this is a no bet match either way.

Thanks Corey --
:thumbs:

[coreyschucky]

Ljubo on the verge of getting broken:bang:

[recovering77]

he's struggling here. he's usually automatic early in the tourney. I'm pretty sure he'll pull it out though. I just want Murray to get up to 4 games, then I don't care.

[vazman05]

dont have a good feeling about lubo in this one...murray up 30-o in the 5th game...and lubo is serving....first ancic...then blake....and maybe lubo....man tough breaks today, none going our ways:bang:

[recovering77]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Cause Baggy is in horrible form heading into the match. Might be worth a play though cause Safin had a horrible match yesterday despite winning and he might run into some physical problems today. For me this is a no bet match either way.

Does Baggy still get those cramps like he got when he played that epic match against Agassi?

[vazman05]

lubo evens it out....dam...heart attack city with these two

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
Does Baggy still get those cramps like he got when he played that epic match against Agassi?

sometimes but he's just not playing well right now.

[vazman05]

ljubo down 4-3....hoping he can pull this one out....friggin andy murray...what a joke:hair: :hair: :bitching:

[coreyschucky]

This might be it as Murray has 2 bp's

Murray breaks it's over

[vazman05]

andy muuray....wow....all i got to say:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[vazman05]

ancic, blake, lubo all go down....:bag: :hair:

[recovering77]

game set match. But now I think safin is an even stronger play.

[vazman05]

andy murray is gotta be the biggest piece of work out there....i hate him LOL

[Horatio]

:flush: Gawd...I didn't like that assclown Murray before, now I really do detest him. Sheesh. :bang:

[Horatio]

is Djokovic....he really must have some game, because Gasquet sure does. Somehow, I have never gotten a chance to see him play a single set...

A final nail in the coffin for my men's betting will be if JCF beats Soderling....:bang:

[coreyschucky]

He's really good but he has asthma problems which has caused him to lose matches.

[Horatio]

Soderling is money at least:gulp: :prtytme:

[flwareagle]

Did livescore freeze up again???

Davydenko match should have started already according to the times..

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by flwareagle
Did livescore freeze up again???

Davydenko match should have started already according to the times..

It'll go off in the next 15 minutes the doubles match that's before it just finished.

[Horatio]

tourney livescore has just the Fish Nadal match up but not started...

[flwareagle]

I was about to smack the computer screen.

I hate when work inteferes with betting.

[Horatio]

UP A BREAK EARLY...

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
UP A BREAK EARLY...

Man Davy not playing well, I hope he can turn it around.

[flwareagle]

..|.. Davydenko ..|..

[flwareagle]

Davy broke back.

[coreyschucky]

Davydenko lost 4-6, 7-6, 3-6
Alves lost 3-6, 6-4, 1-6
Canas won 6-3, 6-1
Healey won (No score at the moment)!!!!

Madrid: 14-5 (+7.01 units)
Challenger Series: 13-4 (+35 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

takes the second set...

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
takes the second set...

JJ about to finish him off in 3rd set...SHIT

[paco-g]

It seems that a lot of these guys that are playing their first match struggle against guys that have already played and won and are used to the surface...

Not sure if that is a trend but it's worth noting...



Johansson def. Davydenko (1st match)
Ginepri (1st match win) def. Ancic (1st match)
Vliegen (1st match, straight set win) def. Blake (1st match, maybe too tired?)
Murray def. Ljubicic (1st match)
Safin (won long 1st match) def. Baghdatis (1st match)
Soderling (1st match, straight set win) def. Ferrero (1st match)



Where it didn't hold true

Nadal def. Fish
Haas def. Hrbaty (Hrbaty won prior match by retirement and lost first set 3-6)
Gonzalez def. Srichaphan (Gonzalez 1st match won but was taken to the limit)
Djokovic def. Gasquet
Tomas Berdych def. Agustin Calleri


.....



Madrid

20* Nikolay Davydenko (-190) Over Joachim Johansson - 11:00 AM
10* Fernando Gonzalez (-270) Over Paradorn Srichaphan - 5:00 AM
10* Mario Ancic (-170) Over Robby Ginepri - 5:00 AM
10* Ivan Ljubicic (-280) Over Andy Murray - 7:45 AM
10* Tomas Berdych (-190) Over Agustin Calleri - 7:45 AM
10* Robin Soderling (-190) Over Juan Carlos Ferrero - 9:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[coreyschucky]

I think in some cases yes you're right with the theory and in others it's just coincidence. It's something that we should definetly follow come the start of the 2007 season. Nice work paco-g!!!!:thumbs:

[paco-g]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
I think in some cases yes you're right with the theory and in others it's just coincidence. It's something that we should definetly follow come the start of the 2007 season. Nice work paco-g!!!!:thumbs:


Well i wouldn't say it's a theory but just something to take note of... maybe it takes a match to adjust to the playing surface. Johansson was playing very well in prior matches. So for the prices, it seemed reasonable.

Anyways hindsight's always 20/20 so some of it may just be coincidence as well.

[coreyschucky]

On indoor surfaces like this it's all about serve. In JJ's case he has probably the biggest serve in the game next to Karlovic if not better. It's very hard to break the guy when he serves so hard so if you have a mental lapse like Davydenko did twice in the match your going to lose.

[coreyschucky]

Taking some risks here today as I feel some dogs have a legit shot at winning there matches.

Thursday

Madrid

10* Andy Roddick (-300) Over Tomas Berdych - 6:15 AM
10* Joachim Johansson (-110) Over Fernando Gonzalez - 7:45 AM
10* David Nalbandian (-185) Over Tim Henman - 9:15 AM
10* Novak Djokovic (+115) Over Andy Murray - 3:15 PM
5* Robby Ginepri (+142) Over Tommy Robredo - 5:00 AM
5* Kristof Vliegen (+190) Over Marat Safin - 7:45 AM
1* Robin Soderling (+1550) Over Roger Federer - 9:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[EdwardHaney]

I thought Nalbandian looked good but I was checking here before I made this play hoping to find you on him as well, and you are, and for 10 units! Good deal. And I kinda like Djokovic too, I'd like to throw in a relatively large bet on one of these 2. Maybe I'll just hit both of them and then pray that at worst one of them wins. I feel reeeeally nervous about my favorites lately but I have to believe Nalbandian gets this done assuming there's no funny business and he doesn't job out to Henman.

I'm gonna risk $100 on Nalbandian at -184 to take out Henman. I'll see how that goes before I decide on Djokovic. I'm kinda sweet on Murray so I don't like to go against him but Djokovic is the man. That one's not until later on though so I'll have plenty of time to ponder. Damn I wish I could watch that one on TV. The sportsmanship there will probably be world class. :pud:


I see several dogs on that card of yours though...you alright man haha! Good luck with all your plays :thumbs:

[recovering77]

Like the same as most of you

Ginepri, Soderling +5.5 -175, Johannson, Nalbandian, Djokovic.

I hate betting on Roddick. But I think he wins here.

I usually don't bet on Roddick, Blake, or Tursonov. Least favorite here.

I'm really loving the game line for Soderling here. I think he might even be able to take a set against Federer.

[coreyschucky]

Thursday

Challenger Series: Kolding, Denmark

20* Michael Llodra (-210) Over Jean-Christophe Faurel - 9:00 AM
10* Dick Norman (-270) Over Jan Minar - 9:00 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[-Marines-]

Ginepri good call!

lets go roddick

[coreyschucky]

Roddick got hurt and couldn't really continue. Roddick fought through but he couldn't run at all.

Ginepri won 7-6, 6-3!!!!
Roddick lost 6-7, 3-6
Johansson match VOID (JJ withdrew)
Vliegen lost 3-6, 2-6
Nalbandian won 6-2, 2-6, 7-5!!!!
Soderling lost 6-7, 6-7
Djokovic won 1-6, 7-5, 6-3!!!!
Llodra won 7-5, 6-1!!!!
Norman won 6-4, 6-2!!!


Madrid: 17-7 (-.74 units)
Challenger Series: 15-4 (+65 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

damn JJ was my big play today too. Owell, better than him trying to play and retiring during the match. Then all hell would break loose.

[Horatio]

Safin is playing very well climbing his way back up the rankings. Personally, I think he is the only player who has the physical tools and game to give Federer real problems. But then there is that little matter of his head...:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by Horatio
Safin is playing very well climbing his way back up the rankings. Personally, I think he is the only player who has the physical tools and game to give Federer real problems. But then there is that little matter of his head...:gulp:

Or big matter...His head is his biggest problem. He has all the tools in the world but no brain.

[Horatio]

sarcasm CNote...million dollar skills, ten cent brain. :gulp: But he is steadily regaining his form. Even with that brain of his, he was number one in the world, after all. I hate betting on him, however.

[BeyondTheGame]

Was Hoping Roddick would pull out of the game there, oh well at least Andy made a few $100 when he won his bet with the Ref with 4 Lets.

[recovering77]

Soderling is giving Federer a run for his money.

Wish I got the ML at +2100, but then the line kept dropping.

[recovering77]

I can't believe Nalbandian is letting that piece of trash Henman stay in the game. Close him out already.

[BeyondTheGame]

HawkEye wins the game for FedEx - Really Really Really Great Game to watch

Can say one thing 8 Break Point Ops for FedEx none of them turned into Breaks amazing. Fantastic game.

[coreyschucky]

Nalbandian's new name is the MAGICIAN. How this guy keeps pulling out these wins is ridiculous. Down a break against Henman he breaks TH when serving for the match and breaking him again after that. The match before he was down 4-1 to Benneteau in the 3rd and came back to win. This guys keeps pulling wins out his ass.

[EdwardHaney]

If Nalbandian did not come back to win that would have been the last favorite I ever played, maybe even the last tennis match I ever played besides the 4 majors. I'm very fortunate to pull that one out!!

[recovering77]

dont like the line movement on djokovic. went from +115 for chucky, to -112 now.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
dont like the line movement on djokovic. went from +115 for chucky, to -112 now.

Not a bad thing. Djokovic is the better player let's see if he'll come through.

[recovering77]

got any updates on the Raymond/Stosur doubles match chucky?

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
got any updates on the Raymond/Stosur doubles match chucky?

Morariu/Jankovic won the 1st set 6-4

[recovering77]

where u watching it from? Im struggling to find a site for it.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
where u watching it from? Im struggling to find a site for it.

http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Page_3359.html

click on the scoreboard link.

[recovering77]

nevermind, i got it. so crappy. shouldnt jankovic be tired? her and kuznetsova played forever.

[coreyschucky]

Originally posted by recovering77
nevermind, i got it. so crappy. shouldnt jankovic be tired? her and kuznetsova played forever.

only 2 sets and that was hours ago. i think that match was at like 9:15 AM. plus this is doubles...they don't really move much.

[recovering77]

damnit, im screwed again if djokovic doesnt win. hes already down a break too!

[Horatio]

cashes!!!! :thumbs:

[recovering77]

wow, Murray really sucks. how he managed to lose this match amazes me. Dominates first set, first game of the second set he has like 4 break points and he loses.

Djokovic is the man, but Im fading him next match.

[paco-g]

Originally posted by coreyschucky
Roddick got hurt and couldn't really continue. Roddick fought through but he couldn't run at all.

Ginepri won 7-6, 6-3!!!!
Roddick lost 6-7, 3-6
Johansson match VOID (JJ withdrew)
Vliegen lost 3-6, 2-6
Nalbandian won 6-2, 2-6, 7-5!!!!
Soderling lost 6-7, 6-7
Llodra won 7-5, 6-1!!!!
Norman won 6-4, 6-2!!!!

Madrid: 16-7 (-11.89 units) with 1 still pending
Challenger Series: 15-4 (+65 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

You made some solid picks there. Too bad Roddick got hurt but damn you can't predict that kinda stuff....

Good work!

[coreyschucky]

These are my last plays for the weekend. I went away again and I was able to jump on the computer for a couple of minutes.

Friday

Madrid

10* Marat Safin (-190) Over David Nalbandian - 8:00 AM
10* Rafael Nadal (-275) Over Tomas Berdych - 2:00 PM
10* Fernando Gonzalez (+100) Over Novak Djokovic - 3:15 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[recovering77]

love all the plays chucky, but I feel ur WTA pick is the strongest.

there is no way in hell Kirilenko beats Srebotnik tomorrow.

I can't bet against Djokovic though. I said I was gonna fade him after how he played today, but he's playing a guy that won by forfeit.

Nadal ain't losin til the finals either anyways. Even Srichiphan went deep in his home countrie's tourney.

[recovering77]

The Nadal line has dropped a lot since last night. Dunno what to think about that.

it seems as if no one wants to win a game they're serving in the Safin match. Safin has looked horrible, but broke Nalbandian while he was serving for the match. Then he's down 0-40, about to get broken, and he pulls out the set somehow.

EDIT

WOW, Safin up 0-40 on Nalbandian's serve and somehow we end up in a 2nd set tie break.

[recovering77]

godddd man, watching this match hurts.

Safin has Nalbandian 15-40 with break point, Nalbandian takes the set.

Nalbandian has Safan 15-40 with break point, Safin takes the set. This match is so stressful to watch.

Can Nalbandian come on strong 3 matches in a row?

[recovering77]

Safin is serving for the match, u got one more left Nal?

[recovering77]

apparently he does, he breaks safin while he's serving for the match.

[recovering77]

wow, nalbandian does it again, what a prick.

[Horatio]

has been nothing short of miraculous in this tournament. He is as talented as they come, and can also be listed on that short list of people who could stop Fedex here. (6-6 lifetime record against Federer). Wish I had seen his last two matches...:gulp:

[Horatio]

takes the first set off Nadal, 6-3

[Horatio]

in to straight, 6-3, 7-6...

[recovering77]

oopps wrong forum

[recovering77]

oops

[Horatio]

absolutely destroys Nalbandian....4 and love....if there ever was a guy you could bet on, it is him. Sheesh, record is now 81-5 this year. Incredible...:thumbs:

[Horatio]

against Berdych...why not, 2-0 lifetime, and an underdog.I like his chances.:gulp:

[Horatio]

comes through very very easily..wish I had put more on him...6-3, 6-1:prtytme: