ATP - London & Halle (6/12 - 6/18)

[coreyschucky]

The Stella Artois Championships - London, England - Outdoors, Grass

http://www.stellaartoistennis.com/

Gerry Weber Open - Halle, Germany - Outdoors, Grass

http://www.gerryweber-open.de/


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

Henman -155 over Agassi **WIN**
Rusedski -300 over Dupuis **LOSS**
Gimelstob -123 over Sluiter **WIN**
Vik -206 over Sabau **LOSS**
Moodie -176 over Philippousis**LOSS**
Murray -300 over Tipsarevic **LOSS**
Goldstein +170 over Ginepri**LOSS**
Lee +100 over Mathieu**WIN**

All one unit:gulp:

Not that great a start. Plus I did not mean to post Tuesday matches here.Oh well. The Rusedski retirement and the Vik loss really hurt. I hope Murray doesn't tank to make it a trifecta on the heavy favorites. Sheesh.:bang:

[rousea]

Originally posted by Horatio
Henman -155 over Agassi
Rusedski -300 over Dupuis
Gimelstob -123 over Sluiter
Vik -206 over Sabau
Moodie -176 over Philippousis
Murray -300 over Tipsarevic
Goldstein +170 over Ginepri
Lee +100 over Mathieu

All one unit:gulp:

Why such the low line on Mathieu? I've played him several times the past month or 2. Is he just a clay-court guy?

[coreyschucky]

More in the morning.

Monday

Halle

1* Olivier Rochus (-193) Over Alexander Waske - 6:00 AM
1* Jiri Novak (-248) Over Boris Pashanski - 7:15 AM
1* Robin Soderling (-228) Over Rainer Schuettler - 11:15 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

He has a big serve, has been playing well, so no I don't consider him a clay courter. Lee has beaten him before on HC but it was a while ago. Lee has also played well, I just thought it worth a shot thinking that Mathieu may be a little off after Paris.
I suspect the line just reflects that the change to grass is a big one for everyone.

[EdwardHaney]

MONDAY/TUESDAY


HALLE
Baghdatis -206 over Pavel
Sanguinetti -174 over Seppi
Novak -240 over Pashanski (3 UNITS)
Nieminen -146 over Kohlschreiber
Safin -250 over Serra
Phau +167 over Mayer
Santoro +135 over Youzhny
Clement +261 over Kiefer

LONDON
Lee +102 over Mathieu (2 UNITS)
Lopez -109 over Bracciali (3 UNITS)
Udomchoke -146 over Zib
Agassi +153 over Henman
Gimelstob -126 over Sluiter (2 UNITS)
Melzer +106 over Monfils
Mahut -135 over Benneteau (2 UNITS)
Norman +153 over Srichaphan
Murray -300 over Tipsarevic



Has anyone else noticed Clement always gets a tough first round opponent. He hasn't had much of a chance to do any damage this year with his draws.

[coreyschucky]

Monday

London

1* Gilles Muller (-185) Over Yen-Hsun Lu - 7:30 AM
1* Greg Rusedski (-280) Over Antony Dupuis - 10:15 AM
1* Kenneth Carlsen (-160) Over Frank Dancevic - 10:15 AM
1* Paul-Henri Mathieu (-133) Over Hyung-Taik Lee - 11:45 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

Not what I wanted to read about Henman...of course Agassi has got a lot of rust and problems as well...but makes me wonder about the wisdom of my Henman bet...

"Henman said: "The grass has not been as easy on my back as I thought it would be and I have taken longer to adjust physically. It was better today but on Friday and Saturday it wasn't good at all. It is slightly disconcerting my back has been a bit sore but I hope I can put that down to the change in surfaces. I feel like I know how to manage that and hopefully it won't cause any problems."

Oh well, the bet is what it is. Nice hit on Olivier Rochus C Man, tailed ya on that one and others. I do think I have placed too many given the uncertainties of the new surface on players.May back off considerably from here on out.

[tt boy]

Novak and Rochus take care of business:prtytme:
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[coreyschucky]

Rochus won 2-6, 6-4, 6-3!!!!
Novak won 7-5, 6-2!!!!
Muller lost 4-6, 6-7
Carlsen lost 6-4, 3-6, 3-6
Rusedski lost 7-5, 3-6, 2-3 (Rusedski retired)
Soderling won 6-3, 7-6!!!!
Mathieu lost 6-7, 7-6, 4-6

Halle & London: 3-4 (-4.58 units)


Good Luck to All!!!!

[tt boy]

Can't believe that joke Carlsen losing to a stiff like Dancevic:bang:
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[EdwardHaney]

ADDING:

Bastl +280 over Gasquet

[EdwardHaney]

ADDING:

Blake -279 over Gimelstob (2 UNITS)

[tt boy]

I like Blake also Ed..going to close my eyes and take MOODIE-187 to beat PHILIPPOUSSIS and BJORKMAN-159 over WANG:beer2:
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Tuesday

London

1* James Blake (-255) Over Justin Gimelstob - 7:30 AM

Halle

1* Tomas Berdych (-300) Over Benjamin Becker - 12:45 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[tt boy]

Blake scares me all of a sudden...Line falling fast.from -300 to -255:hide:
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Tuesday

London

1* Jonas Bjorkman (-155) Over Yeu-Tzoo Wang - 10:15 AM
1* Wesley Moodie (-190) Over Mark Phillippoussis - 11:45 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

GL guys...gotta turn this thing around.:gulp:

BOTH HIT
:prtytme: :prtytme:

[tt boy]

rain in London:mad:
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[EdwardHaney]

MAIN DRAWS: 9-7 (+3.32 UNITS)



STILL PENDING
Clement +261 over Kiefer
Murray -300 over Tipsarevic

[coreyschucky]

Berdych won 6-4, 6-3!!!!
Blake won 7-5, 6-1!!!!

Halle & London: 5-4 (-2.58 units) with 2 still pending


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

Kiefer -260 over Clement
Soderling -206 over Pavel.

Anyone got thoguths on Rochus upsetting Safin? Is Safin rounding into form or still a real work in progress?

[rousea]

5-team parlay still pending...

Hope Murray can hold serve and force a third set. The other play pending in this is Grosjean.

What do you guys think? How am I sitting?


5 Team Parlay #38833642
Tennis - All tournaments for men (Game)
ATP - The Stella Artois, London Queen's Club, England - June 13th
Match must be completed within 48 hours of schedule for wagers to have action. If either player retires before the match is completed, all wagers will be settled as no action . Max $500. Parlays $300.
(3215) James Blake -340 Tue@7:30a
Competitor: (3216) Justin Gimelstob
Tennis - All tournaments for men (Game)
ATP - The Stella Artois, London Queen's Club, England - June 13th
Match must be completed within 48 hours of schedule for wagers to have action. If either player retires before the match is completed, all wagers will be settled as no action . Max $500. Parlays $300.
(3232) Dmitry Tursunov -680 Tue@7:30a
Competitor: (3231) Alex Bogdanovic
Tennis - All tournaments for men (Game)
ATP - The Stella Artois, London Queen's Club, England - June 13th
Match must be completed within 48 hours of schedule for wagers to have action. If either player retires before the match is completed, all wagers will be settled as no action . Max $500. Parlays $300.
(3217) Andy Murray -410 Tue@9:00a
Competitor: (3218) Janko Tipsarevic
Tennis - All tournaments for men (Game)
ATP - The Stella Artois, London Queen's Club, England - June 13th
Match must be completed within 48 hours of schedule for wagers to have action. If either player retires before the match is completed, all wagers will be settled as no action . Max $500. Parlays $300.
(3222) Sebastien Grosjean -630 Tue@12:00p
Competitor: (3221) Ivo Minar
Tennis - All tournaments for men (Game)
ATP - Gerry Weber Open, Halle, Germany, Europe - June 13th
Match must be completed within 48 hours of schedule for wagers to have action. If either player retires before the match is completed, all wagers will be settled as no action . Max $500. Parlays $300.
(3247) Tomas Berdych -410 Tue@12:00p
Competitor: (3248) Benjamin Becker
Risk $300.00 to win $498.43

[coreyschucky]

Rousea - I'd be worried about Murray but I think he'll bounce back tomorrow.

Horatio - Tough matchup there with Rochus - Safin. I'm staying away. I thought Kiefer withdrew?? I swear I thought Clement was facing Pless tomorrow.

Wednesday

London

1* Fernando Verdasco (-135) Over Hyung-Taik Lee - 7:45 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

It was still on the board when I posted, but listed as cancelled now on livescore.com. Pless is playing as you said...:gulp:

[Horatio]

I am a bit worried about Murray myself...sheesh...:bang:

[rousea]

Yeah, I thought Murray was in real trouble but he started to play a lot better in the second set (or at least it seems he did) - challenging his opponent's serve and holding his own.

He's up 5-2 in the second set but a point away from being up 5-3. If he can just hold serve, it's going 3.

If he can somehow pull out the eighth game and break his opponent's serve, he can start the 3rd set by serving.

[tt boy]

Wednesday

London

1* Fernando Verdasco (-135) Over Hyung-Taik Lee - 7:45 AM



I'm on it..who the hell is the Lee character..choker Mathieu lost to him and hope Nando doesn't do the same
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[EdwardHaney]

ADDING:

Nieminen -144 over Mayer (2 UNITS)
Minar +540 over Grosjean (1.5 UNITS)
Nadal +122 over Fish (maybe I'm a sucker)
Mahut +258 over Stepanek
Srichaphan -261 over Lu
Reynolds +209 over Monfils
Ljubicic -671 over Sabau





and WTF is up with this

Federer -8000 over Bopanna, but it's only Federer -838 to win 2-0???? If my balls were a bit larger I'd bet my house on this play but I won't let myself do a large bet here even though it seems like free money. I can't believe more than 1 in 10 people would actually take Bopanna here wtf??? 6-4 6-3 would be the closest I could imagine and I'd consider that good for Bopanna. Federer is going to be pissed as fuck coming off a loss, he'll win this tourney without dropping a set I would imagine. Somebody talk me out of this before I maybe go through with it....??

[EdwardHaney]

FROM ATP



Rohan Bopanna (IND)

Birth: 4-Mar-1980
Birthplace: N/A
Height: N/A
Weight: N/A
Turned Pro: N/A
Coach: N/A
Current ranking: 267
(only ATP win this year in his native India, vs Saulnier)





All Wins YTD (not counting Qualys)

Saulnier FRA*, Chung KOR, King USA, Capkovic SVK, Huta Galung NED




All Losses YTD (not counting Qualys)

Muller LUX, Lee KOR, Coelho AUS, Amritraj IND, Devilder, FRA, Petzschner GER, Qureshi PAK, Matsui JAP, Troicki SCG, Olejniczak POL



All but Coelho and Petzschner beat him in straight sets, all matches on HARD, CARPET, or GRASS

[Horatio]

is toast :bang: :bang: :bang:

[tt boy]

Yeah..I see that .what tool:bang: that bastard Moodie off a slow start:mad:
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[Horatio]

is toast as well methinks...:bang: :bang: :bang:

He IS toast. Memo to self:never play over two plays on a changed surface.Absolutely silly to imagine clay to grass is predictable in any fashion. Horrible week ...will have to grind to salvage something from it.:bang: :bang:

[tt boy]

Originally posted by EdwardHaney
ADDING:

Nieminen -144 over Mayer (2 UNITS)
Minar +540 over Grosjean (1.5 UNITS)
Nadal +122 over Fish (maybe I'm a sucker)
Mahut +258 over Stepanek
Srichaphan -261 over Lu
Reynolds +209 over Monfils
Ljubicic -671 over Sabau





and WTF is up with this

Federer -8000 over Bopanna, but it's only Federer -838 to win 2-0???? If my balls were a bit larger I'd bet my house on this play but I won't let myself do a large bet here even though it seems like free money. I can't believe more than 1 in 10 people would actually take Bopanna here wtf??? 6-4 6-3 would be the closest I could imagine and I'd consider that good for Bopanna. Federer is going to be pissed as fuck coming off a loss, he'll win this tourney without dropping a set I would imagine. Somebody talk me out of this before I maybe go through with it....??


Fed in a 1st set tie break,,how fukin pitiful is that:bang:
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[tt boy]

Nieminen:bang: bastard goes down to Mayer:flush:
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[EdwardHaney]

MAIN DRAWS: 12-12 (-2.84 UNITS)



NO PENDING WAGERS

[Horatio]

downhill perhaps, but at least it will be with people who have made me cash for two years...

Nadal -380 (3-0 vs Verdasco, two on HC, one on clay)
Ljubicic.-242 (Because Ljubi is Ljubi, and being 2-0 vs Monfils does not hurt either, although Monfils seemingly is about to really come through.)

I expect Henman to win but the price is too steep for me this week. GL

:gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Thursday

London

1* Fernando Gonzalez (-130) Over Mark Phillippoussis - 7:30 AM
1* Ivan Ljubicic (-255) Over Gael Monfils - 10:15 AM

Halle

1* Fabrice Santoro (-115) Over Arnaud Clement - 6:00 AM
1* Robin Soderling (-250) Over Andrei Pavel - 6:00 AM
1* Tomas Berdych (-275) Over Jiri Novak - 6:00 AM
1* Tommy Haas (-360) Over Andreas Seppi - 11:30 AM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

but decided also to go with Santoro (that guy is amazing and amusing to watch) and Berdych.GL :gulp:

[coreyschucky]

Thursday

Challenger Series: Lugano, Switzerland

2* Michael Lammer (-225) Over Robin Roshardt - 12:30 PM


Good Luck to All!!!!

[Horatio]

in straight sets...nice!!:yeah:

Berdych in 3:prtytme: :prtytme:

[Horatio]

hits as well...:yeah:

Ljubi takes the gaspipe:flush: :flush:

NADAL cashes in three sets:gulp:

[EdwardHaney]

Missed out yesterday, back today


FRIDAY
Haas -168 over Soderling
Berdych -186 over Santoro
Hewitt -164 over Nadal
Tursonov +107 over Henman
Blake -152 over Monfils (2 UNITS)

[rousea]

Nadal is getting no love from oddsmakers outside the clay court.

I got him at +105 against Mardy Fish. Now he was -500 against Verdasco yesterday but then dips to +135 against Hewitt today. I can understand the line today a bit but it sure is tempting to take the No. 2 player in the world at +135.

[FlyersFan]

I used to love Tennis....been to the Open before, Thriftway ATP in cincy a bunch of times, the women's tourney in LA in August, Mercedes in LA (at UCLA) a couple of times...nothing beat a night match at the Open with an american.....all those 5 setters with like Todd Martin, Sampras or Chang that went until 2AM. But all these guys are gone, and so is my interest in tennis. Roddick is going to end his career as a head case who never got anywhere, and other than Blake, that's pretty much it for American tennis. I know a lot of these other guys are good......but my interst in watching or giving a shit about a Lammer/Roshhert match just isn't even close to being there. I also followed guys like Becker, all the Swedes etc....but this current group of players just provides zero interest to me.....GL!...with the tennis stuff guys...:thumbs:

[EdwardHaney]

MAIN DRAWS: 15-13 (-0.84 UNITS)



NO PENDING WAGERS

[Horatio]

FF, I am surprised that you don't like Nadal and Federer. Of course you are not obligated to, but when you hear McEnroe expressing awe at Federer's abilities, his shotmaking and movement, and seeing Nadal's incredible run on clay, and his real rivalry with Federer, the men's game has some superb athletes in it. And there is no doubt that the women's game is better than ever in terms of athleticism and depth.
Oh well.I feel similarly about today's crop of baseball players:could not care less about Barry Bonds et al, and rarely even listen to their games anymore. And I used to stay up all night just to listen to Dodger games, and vividly recall seeing Koufax and Drysdale pitch. Now I would rather watch college lacrosse.
:gulp:

[EdwardHaney]

I agree about baseball. I used to watch games all the time, follow all the transactions day by day. Was running gamecast all day, every day. That was only a couple of years ago. Now I could give a shit less about baseball. Tennis has replaced baseball for me. For me it's NFL, NCAAB, NBA, NCAAF, ATP, WTA in that order. I have also watched the Stanley Cup games this year and NHL is pretty much on my radar now as well, it's been entertaining as hell. I also like the World Cup and heavyweight boxing, and I'll watch men's golf during the majors. What I like about it is that I can find something to watch 365 days out of the year even without paying attention to baseball.

[FlyersFan]

Originally posted by Horatio
FF, I am surprised that you don't like Nadal and Federer. Of course you are not obligated to, but when you hear McEnroe expressing awe at Federer's abilities, his shotmaking and movement, and seeing Nadal's incredible run on clay, and his real rivalry with Federer, the men's game has some superb athletes in it. And there is no doubt that the women's game is better than ever in terms of athleticism and depth.



Horatio- i like Federer, problem is that there has been no competition for him over the past 2 years when he isn't on Clay...it's pretty much a foregone conclusion he will win......there are just too many guys that specialize and not enough guys who are good all around....i am so sick of hearing about "such and such a surface specialists"......i still remember matches like the Conners/Patrick McEnroe match that went into the wee hours of the AM then his match vs. Krickstein that same Open......i was once a huge tennis fan....just have gotten away from it i guess and i never see the same names making a final outside of Federer (or nadal on clay). Edberg was one of my favorite players even though he was quiet. Loved his game. I dunno....i think there is very little interest in Tennis in the states right now. Probably as little as there is in soccer. Davenport is hurt, serena hasn't played in months, venus is decent still, seles is done.....i actually much prefer the women's game to the men's game right now.....at least i know a lot of those guys.....i mean you really have to dig deep to know most of the guys you are talking about.....didn't used to be that way....there were lots of household names on the men's tour that even the casual fan would have heard of......guys like Hewitt, Henman, Safin fade in and out...i dunno...not picking on the game....i followed it for years as i said.......i just don't have the interest in it right now for the reasons stated........anyway, GL!.......the only part of the season i do watch is the US hardcourts season because i have been to so many of the events (cincy, LA, indy, the Open....ladies tourney in LA).....i guess that starts in about 3-4 weeks......GL!...:thumbs:

[Horatio]

OK it sounds like (and it is true) that American tennis being down is the reason for your flagging interest. I think that will continue, unfortunately. Blake and Ginepri are about it aside from Roddick. Maybe Bobby Reynolds if he ever lives up to his promise.
(By the way, Nadal is 6-1 against Fedex, and 3 of em are on HC)
I think Americans are witnessing this diminishment in native players in all sports really, as the sports get so internationalized. Fewer Americans will be seen in the NBA (European players are already a major factor)and MLB (where the Dominicans and Latin Americans will steadily replace American kids no longer as interested in the sport).
Instead of having to be the best in this country, now you have to be the best in the world to play in those leagues...and it has always been that way in tennis, but America had advantages in resources and people.No longer true really, as developing nations have caught up in a big way. Chinese women are indicators of that trend in tennis.
Sampras dominated tennis in a fashion similar to Federer, but was labelled "boring" by the idiot American media, who always prefer style over substance.
And gonna finish with throwing a half unit at Blake to upset Roddick on grass at Stella Artois tourney. (+230) Given my week, Blake will get blown off the court in love sets.

BLAKE gets the W , 7-5, 6-4:prtytme: